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Behringer Bass Overdrive owners, I need your help

There is an inverse relationship between behringer haters and knowledge of the products.

When you hear someone make a short factless statement about not getting Behringer products it is completely obvious it is coming from a parrot. That's someone with zero first hand knowledge, no desire to learn but unwilling to NOT parrot what they heard someone else say as if they have first hand knowledge. They don't.

Behringer is great gear and the competition sues them not because they make crappy products but because they make the same products for less than half the cost.

The guys that went out and paid through the nose for some logo on somethig worth half of what they paid just cannot accept that we get the same for less than half so they puff up the chest and make sweeping (Incorrect) statments that Behringer is crap. It isn't, you got suckered by a brand name. Some of us didn't.

I am very interested in the list of Behringer products these critics have owned. I have seen Alesis, Roland, Yamaha, DBX, Soundcraft, Shure and Allen Heith products, among others, fail. Where is the documented proof that currently the behringer products are failing at a greater rate than these other brands.

Until you have some evidence you just make yourself look dumb speaking on subjects you don't know anything about.

-eSmith.
 
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LoL My evidence is my guitarist. He has 2 behringer pedals, both plastic, and both has to be stepped on a few times before it works. And these pedals aren't that old either. Most pedals have a problem engaging when you step on them after a few years of really stomping on them nightly. Behringer fails in the first few weeks of daily stomping. And remember, not all their products fail quickly. Just the ones you use daily.
 
So you yourself have not owned a Behringer product?

There you go proving my point... Thanks for that.

What style of music do you play? Mechnical devices do fail. if you get a plastic stompbox for half the price only an idiot would expect it to be equally as strong as a metal box, but that does not mean you can't treat it well and have it last for years. I'm pretty sure the style of music will be very enlightening.

Let me guess... acoustic Jazz?

I use my Behringers products daily. none have failed me yet.

None have failed out of the box. None have features that do not work exactly as expected.

I am willing to revisit this post in a year or two if we remember it and will honestly tell you if what I have has failed at all but until you do the same you really shouldn't bash a brand you don't own.

-eSmith.
 
If the brand puts out a pedal then they should expect the user to step on it daily. If you play live, you are not touching it with your tip toes. Yes, mechanical devices do fail, but how many boss, digitech, tech 21s, loopmasters, devi-evers, etc do you see fail consistently after night after night of stepping on it? I imagine it would be a few years. And actually, trying his pedals out is the reason I will not go with their pedals. I'm not saying things like say their V-amp is bad. It's not a mechanical device like their pedals so it has considerably less wear and tear. I'm saying their pedals have been and may continue to be less desirable to mid-advance players because they cheap out and the small important details, like using a plastic casing instead of a metal one on a product designed to be stepped on on a regular basis.
 
Well, I checked out your vids. I guess I can't claim your a metal band and abuse your gear huh? However, look at your shoes man! I wouldn't recommend stomping on anything with those planks!

Ok, just kidding, I thought your vid was pretty good and your guitar player obviously is not abusing anything so I will take what you say at face value.

I will however counter that other brands do also have this issue as detailed here:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/boss-pedals-failure-off-switch-579834/

So, even though I accept you had some issues with your Behringer pedals. I'm not certain they currently fail at a greater rate than others.

-eSmith.
 
There is an inverse relationship between behringer haters and knowledge of the products.

When you hear someone make a short factless statement about not getting Behringer products it is completely obvious it is coming from a parrot. That's someone with zero first hand knowledge, no desire to learn but unwilling to NOT parrot what they heard someone else say as if they have first hand knowledge. They don't.

Behringer is great gear and the competition sues them not because they make crappy products but because they make the same products for less than half the cost.

The guys that went out and paid through the nose for some logo on somethig worth half of what they paid just cannot accept that we get the same for less than half so they puff up the chest and make sweeping (Incorrect) statments that Behringer is crap. It isn't, you got suckered by a brand name. Some of us didn't.

I am very interested in the list of Behringer products these critics have owned. I have seen Alesis, Roland, Yamaha, DBX, Soundcraft, Shure and Allen Heith products, among others, fail. Where is the documented proof that currently the behringer products are failing at a greater rate than these other brands.

Until you have some evidence you just make yourself look dumb speaking on subjects you don't know anything about.

-eSmith.
Disagree, especially with the bolded points.
I have owned Behringer gear. In every instance, it failed. Although I do agree with some of your point, it also works the other way. People who buy Behringer gear that doesn't fail quite often get super defensive when other people look down on their brand of gear because of its high rate of failure.

To the OP, I also suggest a blend pedal.
 
Fair statement Zoa, My question to you would be:

Can you provide the source of your claim that they have a high failure rate? Please define what the industry tolorance for failure among a brands products and a recent measument that proves Behringer products currently fail at a greater rate than others brands.

I seriously think you cannot do this. I think you are caught in the same rut as others who make the claim bassed completely on hearsay and not on actual industry statistics.

Prove your claim is correct and if I still argue the point then clearly you are correct and I am being overly defensive. But a claim without evidence at all (containing COMPAIRABLE referance with competing brands failure rates) doesn't mean anything at all.

You claim Behringer is looked done on "Because of it's high failure rate" So, what is that rate you are using to make this conclusion?

-eSmith.
 
And what makes you think behringer will post their failure data? So then all data we do have is purely heresay so you will not listen. Im not here to change your mind. I do ha e real world gigging experience with behringer vs. leading other brands. I know what's on my board and I am confident when I step on them they will not break and shatter like plastic models. Sorry if im not some 56 lb teen who is buying his first pedal.
 
So is the problem that the switches are failing or are you now making a new claim that you have witnessed one of the cases shattering?

Can someone please peot a pic of a shattered Behringer Stomp box?

I think we both know you cannot provide the stats. and you are correct, behringer doesn't provide them either, so, how is it your so confident you have all the answers.

What you have, like everyone else (myself included) is an uneducated opinion. I'm just willing to admit the data is not there to make the claims you make. I'm not making claims, I'm just doubting yours.

-eSmith.
 
I have a few Behringer pedals on my board:

TU-300 tuner, not aggressively stomped. It doesn't track very fast, but I'm always in tune (5 string included). It was $20 new on ebay, it will be replaced when I get a rack tuner (so I can use the power feed that it is taking up for MOAR effects)

VP-100 Vintage phaser, METAL enclosure. Also, effing huge. Great sounds from this one, the footswitch appears to be the same as the true bypass ones found on EHX pedals and the like but it is kind of squishy and doesn't have that "KACHUNK" feel that I find re-assuring. It may be getting replaced with a small stone nano when/if I want MOAR real-estate on my board.

BSY-600 Synth - Just awesome. I have no intent on replacing it. I found a few useful settings, there are just too many to tweak and choose from. I may actually be getting another one to have MOAR settings.

Newest addition is the US-600 phase shifter / harmonizer. I wanted a pedal that could drop tune my bass with the click of a foot switch but couldn't justify adding Eventide to my checkbook register. It does drop the tuning a half/full etc step just fine, but there is a latency to it and will not work for faster more articulated stuff that we are doing. The harmony/PS mode is pretty cool though, set the pedal to a fifth above the root and rock on, it does this extremely well. The other one is the trem bar function, doing the trem drop and rise is cool.

The phaser, synth, and shifter all get clicked on and off during shows. Granted, I'm not making them bite the curb when I engage them either. I'll bet any lead footed emeffer could make any footswitch fail if they are hard enough on them.

IMHO, YMMV, etc, get me a beer.
 
So you yourself have not owned a Behringer product?

There you go proving my point... Thanks for that.

What style of music do you play? Mechnical devices do fail. if you get a plastic stompbox for half the price only an idiot would expect it to be equally as strong as a metal box, but that does not mean you can't treat it well and have it last for years. I'm pretty sure the style of music will be very enlightening.

Let me guess... acoustic Jazz?

I use my Behringers products daily. none have failed me yet.

None have failed out of the box. None have features that do not work exactly as expected.

I am willing to revisit this post in a year or two if we remember it and will honestly tell you if what I have has failed at all but until you do the same you really shouldn't bash a brand you don't own.

-eSmith.

How did your behringer pedals hold up? I'm asking because I'm thinking about buying one.