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Berg HD112

MycooLeeyun

MycooLeeyun

Sep 26, 2009
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Sedona, AZ
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Just picked one up. Playing my g&l jb2 with nord nj4s through my GB Shuttlemax 9.2 going into the berg. It's definitely an upgrade from my Avatar B212. The avatar was way muddier and had much more of a presence in the lows.

However, I'm still not satisfied. I'm learning though how much the cab really plays into your tone. I've never played through a "hifi" cab before like the berg. It's very articulate, clean, punchy. It definitely sounds good but I don't think it's aligned with the tone I'm after. I'm not complaining. This is part of the whole journey to find my tone, which is why I always buy used.

I think I need to keep looking around at different cabs. Go try this Eden D210 XLT in my area and see what I think. Maybe the Aguilar DB series would be something to look at as well?

I guess I want a little bit of coloration and not entirely transparent like the berg.
 
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MycooLeeyun said:
I would if I could. But aren't those amps extremely transparent as well. Those amps with the berg cab might have too much clean sparkle for me.. I don't know.
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Search out the Bergantino B|Amp at NAMM thread, and spend some time perusing back through the drive and distortion work Jim has been doing. There are reference clips.

The concept behind the B|Amp is to give you a stellar clean slate to start with and then you layer your tone on top of it. So, yes, the B| starts clean, but then goes from there.

Not sure what tone you are going for; but a great drive distortion pedal like the Grizzly can do some pretty spectacular things into the HD112. Also, you should try messing with the tweeter level on the back. Mine usually sits around 40%, which is more than enough.
 
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bucephylus said:
Search out the Bergantino B|Amp at NAMM thread, and spend some time perusing back through the drive and distortion work Jim has been doing. There are reference clips.

The concept behind the B|Amp is to give you a stellar clean slate to start with and then you layer your tone on top of it. So, yes, the B| starts clean, but then goes from there.

Not sure what tone you are going for; but a great drive distortion pedal like the Grizzly can do some pretty spectacular things into the HD112. Also, you should try messing with the tweeter level on the back. Mine usually sits around 40%, which is more than enough.
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Man I've been playing with my rig for a couple of hours now and just can't get a tone out of it that I'm happy with. I feel like I should be able to jam in my room and be happy with what I'm hearing. I'm running a Shuttlemax 9.2 into the Berg HD112.. No effects or anything. Just playing my g&l jb2
 
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MycooLeeyun said:
Man I've been playing with my rig for a couple of hours now and just can't get a tone out of it that I'm happy with. I feel like I should be able to jam in my room and be happy with what I'm hearing. I'm running a Shuttlemax 9.2 into the Berg HD112.. No effects or anything. Just playing my g&l jb2
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How do you generally run your jb2, pickup and tone wise?
 
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MycooLeeyun said:
Man I've been playing with my rig for a couple of hours now and just can't get a tone out of it that I'm happy with. I feel like I should be able to jam in my room and be happy with what I'm hearing. I'm running a Shuttlemax 9.2 into the Berg HD112.. No effects or anything. Just playing my g&l jb2
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My daily driver is still the Shuttle 9.0 into the HD112. And, I have quite a bit of gig time on the ShuttleMAX 12.0. IME, the key with those amps is to set the parametric lower mid around to about 8 o’clock, and boost that three or four clicks. The amp tone stack is a little shy in the lower mids around 230-ish Hz. I also cut the upper mids around 700 Hz a couple of clicks. Finally I boost the bass just a couple of clicks, the rest flat. That and adjust the tweeter control should get you in the zone.
 
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bucephylus said:
My daily driver is still the Shuttle 9.0 into the HD112. And, I have quite a bit of gig time on the ShuttleMAX 12.0. IME, the key with those amps is to set the parametric lower mid around to about 8 o’clock, and boost that three or four clicks. The amp tone stack is a little shy in the lower mids around 230-ish Hz. I also cut the upper mids around 700 Hz a couple of clicks. Finally I boost the bass just a couple of clicks, the rest flat. That and adjust the tweeter control should get you in the zone.
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Awesome I will give this a shot tomorrow. I've been doing something similar so I'm not entirely hopeful but I will certainly give this a try. Thank you. I still don't think it should be so difficult to find a good tone out of a rig.. I mean, don't you think I just don't have the right amp/cab combo to suit my needs?
 
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Here is a shot of my 12.0. I use the Tube Channel; so, that would be reference.
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Also, that’s about the best you will get out of the Shuttles, which I find more than adequate for lower volume situations. The B|Amp no question delivers more girth, as does the Mesa Subway; both of which are next gen output sections.

Last thing is the Nordstrands. IME, they are VERY fine pickups, but benefit greatly from a potent onboard preamp like the Pope or the Sadowsky. The Nordy’s are in the direction of clean; and you may be just getting a little bit too much of that. I’ve gone to Delano JMVC’s and am happier with those in the Jazz Bass footprint. I do have some Nordy Big Blades in my 6, but those are going through a Pope. If you want to run passive single coil, I’ve had better luck with the Seymour Duncan SJB-2, which has more old school grind going on.

Lastly, make sure you get your rig into a real mix before you do any further gear stuff. That’s key.

So many variables and yin yang interactions...
 
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bucephylus said:
Also, that’s about the best you will get out of the Shuttles, which I find more than adequate for lower volume situations. The B|Amp no question delivers more girth, as does the Mesa Subway; both of which are next gen output sections.

Last thing is the Nordstrands. IME, they are VERY fine pickups, but benefit greatly from a potent onboard preamp like the Pope or the Sadowsky. The Nordy’s are in the direction of clean; and you may be just getting a little bit too much of that. I’ve gone to Delano JMVC’s and am happier with those in the Jazz Bass footprint. I do have some Nordy Big Blades in my 6, but those are going through a Pope. If you want to run passive single coil, I’ve had better luck with the Seymour Duncan SJB-2, which has more old school grind going on.

Lastly, make sure you get your rig into a real mix before you do any further gear stuff. That’s key.

So many variables and yin yang interactions...
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Oh man.. Your knowledge is so helpful. Can't thank you enough. I'm actually looking at a new bass right now. A Lakland DJ4 with upgraded Nord NJ4s and a Nordstrand Preamp.

I do love my jb2 so I might look into different pickups or a preamp.

I'm not playing in a band right now, just using my setup for home jamming and recording. I just wanna dig my tone when I'm playing right now.. Because then I play more often!
 
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MycooLeeyun said:
Oh man.. Your knowledge is so helpful. Can't thank you enough. I'm actually looking at a new bass right now. A Lakland DJ4 with upgraded Nord NJ4s and a Nordstrand Preamp.

I do love my jb2 so I might look into different pickups or a preamp.

I'm not playing in a band right now, just using my setup for home jamming and recording. I just wanna dig my tone when I'm playing right now.. Because then I play more often!
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No doubt the Lakland is a nice bass.

I would personally try adding something like this first, and then see where that takes you.
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