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Hmmm...I'd probably shelve the 4 X 10 and look at alternative driver configurations like 2 X 12's.
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I love the sound of my 410. I think it's the best. Granted, I play the best bass into the best head too. You've got to, when you're playing the best music.
I used a Carvin Red Eye years ago that I thought was excellent. Little horn dealie in the center. Good cab.
The best 4x10 in my book would be an Acme B4.
I too would suggest you look at twelves. Acme have a couple of offerings using twelve inch drivers.
I too would suggest you look at twelves. Acme have a couple of offerings using twelve inch drivers.
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An issue with almost all 410 cabs is that they become very beamy in the mids due to the arrangement of the drivers. That results in your bass sounding different as one moves around the room. These two cabs are the only I'm aware of that adequately address that issue (although in completely different ways). Add that they are among the lowest weight 410's and they would be the only two on my list. If you want an old school sound, go with the Barefaced. If you want more modern, go with the Genzler.
EDIT - links and pics for those who may have tuned in late:
Barefaced Bass - Four 10
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Two other approaches, and it may be just about it as far as ways to design a less beamy 4x10, are the Bergantino HG410 (three drivers in a verticalish arrangement, the other one at the rear, contributing to lows - which are omnidirectional - and, via back wall reflections, to what I'm guessing would be a complex pattern of reinforcements and cancellations in the mids for a result that is described as "3-dimensional") and the @DukeLeJeune-designed Invalid Link Removed by Speaker Hardware (two crossfiring columns). They're both apparently very light too (or, to be precise, the Smart can be if loaded with one of the neodymium driver options).
Finally, speaking of vertical arrangements, of course there's also the RevSound RS420V/RS420VT, where V stands for "vertical" (and the optional T for "tweeter") - also very light at 55lbs:
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Two different 410s have my attention right now. Barefaced and the New Genzler 410-3.. I think the Barefaced and Genzler 410 have solved the Beaming problem that drives me crazy and is so prevalent in all 410s. . Although each manufacturer has addressed the Beaming issue in two very different ways.
I have heard neither . But my hat tip may go towards the Genzler with slight prejustice. That Bass Array is a great concept... and its a compact cab too.. I was looking at fearfuls etc. I tried one and it wasn't my thing. .. Im going to try this new Genzler soon
I have heard neither . But my hat tip may go towards the Genzler with slight prejustice. That Bass Array is a great concept... and its a compact cab too.. I was looking at fearfuls etc. I tried one and it wasn't my thing. .. Im going to try this new Genzler soon
For me in the past it has been the Ampeg SVT-410HE and SWR Goliath 410. Still love those 2, but then I found one of these for a good price on Craigslist and this is now my number one 410. Super loud and punchy with good bottom. 1000W @ 4 ohms and weighs 70lbs.
Clean used GenzBenz cabinets at great prices show up for sale fairly regularly. Keep an eye on Reverb.com, the classifieds here, and the USED list at Guitar Center (they offer a good deal on shipping and their return policy is great).
I have gotten two of the Genz Benz FOCUS 410 this way (very similar to the Regulator's cabinet shown above). It's listed as 64lb, has a terrific low end thump, and is a nice natural sounding speaker.
I have gotten two of the Genz Benz FOCUS 410 this way (very similar to the Regulator's cabinet shown above). It's listed as 64lb, has a terrific low end thump, and is a nice natural sounding speaker.
I used to also own a pair of those and they sound real good. Wish I still had them, but unfortunately due to finances had to sell them.
I used a Genz Benz Uber 410 and liked it alot. It was very powerful but also effecient (as most 410's are). For a 410 it had good clarity in the mids.
There is no clarity of mids to be had outside of the beam zone of any 410 that doesn't have .5 alignment.
Except for those other 410's I mentioned above. In detail, the Genzler may have some comb filtering going on in the low mids if the crossover point isn't low enough, but everything above it should be fine, and over all I'd expect mids to be presented with plenty of clarity; the Bergantino should only suffer from whatever happens from drivers not stacked perfectly vertically and, I suppose, the back driver is fine-filtered to enhance the experience, not smear it to the point of unintelligibility; the RevSound is all-vertical, so there; finally, I imagine the crossfiring in the Smart 410 moves the beamy area to a narrow wedge-shaped zone forming at some distance from the cab, at the center of the field, from a certain frequency upwards, while elsewhere and below that point the two columns radiate each its own pattern, centered in the two diverging axes, without one affecting the other.
There is clarity in the mids in relation to others (in comparison to other 410's that is). Some 410's have more clarity than others. Is it the best cab configuration for clarity, no but it does have some glorious things going on sonically especially if you are standing in its path.
There is a Epifani UL 410 for sale in the classifieds - I have never gigged one but I have used one at a friends house, it's a nice cab.
I bought a PR-410HLF a few years ago and it's one of the best sounding cabs I've ever used and I've never liked 410's having almost always used 810's but this one passed the test, they're loud and deep, not bottom heavy at all but articulate at the same time and will put out effortless bottom VERY loudly. It's heavy, ugly and awkward to move but it's worth it once you get it set up. I use mine with an SVT head. I think they were made aprroximately 20 years ago, they're usually fairly cheap too. I usually use my flatback 810's or Ampeg 15"'s and this cab is much better than the 15"'s and is almost as good sounding as the flatbacks and goes way lower clearly.
Ampeg: Pro Series - PR-410HLF
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To do that with a 410 you would have to carpet over one side of the cab.
Beam blocking guitar drivers is to take down the harshness emanating from the cone afaik.
