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It is like a car - you can objectively rate a $200k car as better than a $50k car.

Whether you care to have the extra options for $150k is another matter entirely (subjective) though the $200k car is still a better car.


More sustain = better than less sustain

More tone range = better than less tone range

More stable neck = better than less stable neck.

etc. etc.

All of these are measurable.
Sure but I've never met a bass that didn't have more than enough sustain. And while I don't like tweaking trusrods, unless you are talking graphite, that is an instrument level, not
Brand level issue. I've owned 5
Warmoth necks (guitar and bass, most of similar age). My least stable is a warmoth strat neck, most stable (apart from my ancient P) is every other warmoth neck I own.
 
I have highlighted the operative part of your post, this is how YOU see it.

There are plenty of bassists who want less sustain. I know guys who immediately remove any hi-mass bridges and drop in a bent plate.
"Clear" isn't really clear at all. If you think clarity is the best feature you should read up on "mudbuckers," plenty of people prefer them for their murky sound.
Stronger output does not mean better pickups that is a very common misconception. Just because pickups are louder than others does not make the tone more desirable.
I hope this helps you understand why "the best" isn't for everybody, only for yourself.



Good on them for not using the sustain. Remember for even a bassist who doesn't want a lot of sustain, I bet they would prefer to start with too much sustain and dial-it back; this is better than starting with too little sustain and.............oh.............ummmm

Having an option is always better than not having an option, even if you don't use all of the option.
 
Good on them for not using the sustain. Don't for even a bassist who doesn't want a lot of sustain, I bet they would prefer to start with too much and dial-it back; this is better than starting with too little sustain and.............oh.............ummmm

Having an option is always better than not having an option, even if you don't use all of the option.

Again, that is your opinion. You prefer sustain, not everybody.

Why do you find it so hard to accept people hold different opinions than your own?
 
Economics drives your entire musical existence - it drives everything you choose.

The only time this doesn't happen is when money is not an constraint.

What? No it doesn't. Not for a second. In addition to that, economics would dictate that your best isn't the best. If it was why would manufacturers still make and sell basses with no sustain, mudbuckers, and low output pickups? I would say economics dictates these things are desirable contrary to your insistence they are not.
 
This:

This is the best bass and I'll tell you why.

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P-bass with Tort guard and flats. It is the quintessential model of Talkbass legend. There are more threads about it than any other.
If Talkbass had a Fender signature model, that would be it. Though with custom carrot inlay of course.

Sustain: Very little. The foam mute assures that. It's the exact perfect amount of sustain.
Neck stability: No carbon reinforcement here. That would be too stiff. Leo got it right the 1st time.
Weight: It weighs exactly as much as a P-bass should. No more, no less.
Tone clarity: Does the phrase "sits in the mix" mean anything to you.
Tone range: That's all in the fingers. Why screw up tone with complicated electronics and *shudder* batteries. ew.
Comfort: The old ones were just a slab, but they fixed it. Now everyone does the same.
Balance: Knee, check, Strap, check... Neck pointed above the horizon line. All good.
Output: Yes. It has output. Did you want NO output? No of course you didn't.

So that's it. The definitive answer to the OPs question. I think we ALL can agree that this is purely objective and based upon plenty of evidence.
After all, hundreds of threads and thousands of responses and running jokes about P-basses (half of them by Nobody himself) back this up. It is undeniably the most popular bass on these boards. And as you know, popularity in music defines greatness. If it didn't then pop radio and American Idol shows would all suck. Obviously, they do not suck as everyone is buying. Any disagreement from here on out claiming this is just another subjective opinion is just trolling to keep the thread open.

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(probably not, but it should)
 
All good .......... you have beaten me.....

Now I feel like you are trolling.

I have tried very hard to treat you like a peer even when everybody was crapping on you. I am not going to bother engaging in conversation with somebody who clearly isn't interested in having it. I have treated you with respect and you have not returned it.

Good luck with your question. There is plenty of good advice in this thread if you just take the time to read through it.
 
What? No it doesn't. Not for a second. In addition to that, economics would dictate that your best isn't the best. If it was why would manufacturers still make and sell basses with no sustain, mudbuckers, and low output pickups? I would say economics dictates these things are desirable contrary to your insistence they are not.

Because of Indifference Curves.
 
I have tried very hard to treat you like a peer even when everybody was crapping on you. I am not going to bother engaging in conversation with somebody who clearly isn't interested in having it. I have treated you with respect and you have not returned it.

Good luck with your question. There is plenty of good advice in this thread if you just take the time to read through it.

Weeeeee tooolllldddd yaaaa...!!!
 
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Ok I re-calibrated the best bass algorithm machine to include a standard indifference curve with a reasonable substitution assumption based on median income in Healdsburg, CA and this is what it calculated for you:

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Still a warlock, but it dropped the low B and the dual humbuckers and added a split P style pup. Not as fancy and a little more budget oriented. Nice, huh?

Apparently, it over estimated your bliss point in the previous calculation.

I hope you're in a metal band.
 
Ok I re-calibrated the best bass algorithm machine to include a standard indifference curve with a reasonable substitution assumption based on median income in Healdsburg, CA and this is what it calculated for you:

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Still a warlock, but it dropped the low B and the dual humbuckers and added a split P style pup. Not as fancy and a little more budget oriented. Nice, huh?

Apparently, it over estimated your bliss point in the previous calculation.

I hope you're in a metal band.


14 pages, 260 messages later and the best bass is a BC Rich Warlock.

That is unexpected, though very cool.