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I've kind of passively been a bass player for quite a while, and I've never given much thought to pedals. I was wondering what you might get it you were me and building a pedalboard from scratch.

Right now, the only place I play outside of my house is at church - contemporary style stuff.

However, the other side of me likes modern metal sounds.

I currently have:
- A random old Digitech Multi-Effects pedal
- A random loop pedal

Right now all I do is use the Digitech at church, and even then I don't do much with it. After that I plug right into the system (currently via some old janky DI).

Things I think maybe are good:
- A preamp pedal. Darkglass or Tech21 Sansamp?
- A tuner because people like to point that out
- A compressor pedal - like the MXR M87

If it makes any difference, my axe is a Ibanez BTB845.

I feel a little lost and overwhelmed. I realize there's a whole lot of subjectiveness and junk here. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
 
Your question as asked us a little too vague to even attempt to make suggestions.
What sort of sounds are you after? And what type of effects interest you? Some idea of your budget would also be helpful. :)

If you’re happy with the way your amp sounds there nat not be much point in adding a separate preamp.

A good stage tuner is always a smart idea. I personally prefer strobe type tuners such as the Peterson and TC Electronics.

I personally think a compressor is something virtually every bassist could benefit by learning why, where, and how to effectively use. But that’s a deep subject that’ll require you to do some reading before you can start to determine which (if any) compressor is the right one for you. Because a compressor is about as personal a choice as your bass, amp, and strings are. One size does not fit all players. Check out this thread for a good start to your education.
 
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What sort of sounds are you after?
Like I said I'm just looking for a basic tone that can be used in a church. Something really smooth for quiet songs/parts and something at least a little drivey for when songs build.

I also like modern metal tones like I said. I mentioned Darkglass because I feel like everyone looks to Nolly and stuff.

And what type of effects interest you?
Something to boost my signal? Some sort of drive. General stuff? I listed some things in the first post.

Some idea of your budget would also be helpful. :)
I'm just estimating things at the moment so I'm not too worried. Whatever's the best bang for the buck I guess. Something I'll be content with for a long time.

If you’re happy with the way your amp sounds there nat not be much point in adding a separate preamp.
Like I said, I'm not plugging into an amp. Just straight into a DI/the system.


I've tried to research compressors before, but everything I look at is just a wall of so much info. Or someone trying to act really smart.
My current multi-effects has a compressor setting and in my head it works when:
- It's pretty much always on
- It's off in quiet parts or chill hymns when I'm not playing hard anyway
There's a lot of videos and info about compressors, but I'm not really sure the difference in them all.
 
Like I said I'm just looking for a basic tone that can be used in a church. Something really smooth for quiet songs/parts and something at least a little drivey for when songs build.

I’m not sure what “basic tone” you prefer, or what gets used in a church setting other than to say that the last time I played in a church I brought:

Tuner: Sonic Research ST-300
Compressor: Keeley Bassist
Preamp: Barber Linden EQ/Preamp
Misc: Broughton HPF
DI: Countryman Type 85
Amp: SWR SM-400; Goliath II 2x10
Bass: Gretsch Junior Jet w/GHS Balanced Nickels

The Keeley Bassist is a straightforward and very transparent limiting type compressor. Good for preventing volume spikes in an unfamiliar room with fussy acoustic characteristics.

The Barber Linden EQ is basically a B-15N tonestack plus some useful extras that provides a huge amount of warm useful tone shaping. If you’re comfortable with a Baxandall/James tonestack you already know you have more control over your mids with just a treble and bass knob than you do with your traditional 3 or 4 knob FMV style EQ. I sidestep the SM-400’s preamp stage and go directly into its effects return with the Linden. Instant 400W B-15N. Yay!

The Countryman Type 85 is an really nice active DI that just sounds good and just works. It adds a little coloration or warmth. But it’s a good sound. Sorta tubelike to my ears. On this particular gig I didn’t use it since the church was a traditional gothic stone and oak pew place with a choir loft and no FOH.

The HPF is something I absolutely need to use if I’m running the SM-400 by itself. The reason would take time to get into. And it’s totally irrelevant unless your using an SM-400. But that said I’ll also use it when I need to rein in my lows for other reasons. In this particular church I set it to cut starting around 80Hz to avoid booming in what was essentially a stone tunnel with a 50 foot ceiling.

The Gretsch Junior Jet (I have the one with the single TV Jones pickup) is a great utility infielder short-scale bass that sounds great and has a huge range of excellent tones. Especially if you use rounds on it. The shorter scale comes in handy if you’re crowded into a small ”stage” area like I knew we would be. I was tempted to bring something else too (just in case) but ended up taking my chances. And it worked beautifully. Nice round warm tone that slotted perfectly with the music on the program.

There's a lot of videos and info about compressors, but I'm not really sure the difference in them all.

The subject is wide and deep and something most of us had to grow into. But compressors basically fall into one of two main groupings: transparent and colorizing.

Transparent compressors have no (or extremely little) effect on your tone. These types of compressors mostly just control the dynamics and shape of your signal. So they’re mainly a clean up tool.

Colorizing compressors add something to your tone. Which makes a colorizing compressor more of an effect than just a plain a signal shaper.

Between those two poles there’s as many shades and shapes and mixes of features and degrees of complexity as there are compressors. And each brings to the party what their designer considers to be the ideal compressor. So if it seems deep and complex, that’s because there is so much to choose from. And no two players will necessarily agree on which is best.

It can take some time and effort getting your head around compression. But it’s an effort well spent IMO. Knowing how and why to use compression is a fundamental skill I consider to be a must have for any bass player once they reach an intermediate level.