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Carry too much $ the police will take it!!!!

#21
Sounds like a dope deal to me...$26K is a lot of money to be carrying around in a stocking cap...it reeks of a dope deal and the police did exactly what they should have done...

If it's not, these guys should go to the police station with legal councel, and claim their money......
 
#24
My friends dad runs a very successful multi-national company and he travels with a lot of cash. It's not uncommon for him to have 30-40k on him at a time, because a lot of the business he does in Asia is cash based.

He had to write a letter to homeland security and TSA threatening a lawsuit, because every single time he travelled through the airport he was being strip searched and grilled, and agents were taking his money and threatening to keep it. Really shady stuff, just shy of suggesting that they keep a portion of the cash to turn the other way kind of stuff. After that letter, he has not been searched once.

I'm not saying this is the case here, but cash is tempting to a lot of people, and tends to bring out so shady characters.
 
#25
AlembicPlayer said:
is this the USA?
it's no of your business what I have in my car unless it's something illegal
if cash becomes illegal, we are looking at a much larger issue.

think about it
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Under the controlled substances act (21 USC, Sec 881 (a)(6) any cash suspected of being used in connection with controlled substances is subject to forfeiture. However, under the Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 2000, the burden of proof is placed solely on law enforcement in order to retain that cash.

In otherwords, if you're carry a boat load of cash (typically anything over $10K) and you can't give reasonable proof as to why you have it, it can be seized, but it will be returned if it cannot be proven that it was used in illegal activity. Simply said, if you want it back, show up with proof it was yours.
 
#26
coreyfyfe said:
They had probable cause, a guy driving with a suspended license can't explain the money. Done. The article may simplify the case by taking short quotes from him, but the fact of the matter is that in order for them to take it they have to have something better than that in the police report. And as far as it being a civil case, all he would have to do is come up with proof that it was his money legally. If he got it from odd jobs, then that's a lot of un-reported income, and a lot of non-taxed payroll expenses someone is skipping out on, so he would be facing penalties anyways.
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All good points, but still..isn't this tantamount to making a "suspect" prove innocence?


coreyfyfe said:
Relic, in your case all you would have to do is show a receipt or proof of sale, or transfer of title or something, most of which would probably have been easy for you to do since you had to sign the title over and all. And $3000 isn't a whole lot, so I doubt they would even say anything about it. Even if you didn't get a receipt at the time and they did decide to take your 3Gs, you can write something out on a piece of paper and have the guy sign it and you'd be golden.
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After having tried to get $100 back from my local municipality for two years, I seriously seriously doubt that it would be that easy but, that's only my speculation.
In the article it mentions amounts of $1000 having been taken, so $3000 isn't too small for suspicion. I think it has more to do with who is carrying it rather than the amount.

Basically, I see the point to an extent - let's say a 16 year old hoodlum covered in gold chains is standing on a corner with a wad of $5000...sure he's probably up to no good. Where's a young kid like that going to get that money?
But how's an officer going to justify who's a potential criminal vs who's a guy that just sold his car? It almost reeks of profiling.. That plus the fact that you have to PROVE that it's your money? Just not cool.. but such are the times we live in I guess.
 
#30
unclekebm said:
I don't know how to explain other than...

A few years ago I spent a night in the slammer...
as i was talking with my new friends I found out 4 "laws" that I had no idea existed;
1. obstructing the flight of a pigeon can get you thrown in jail
2. defacing a cheeseburger, throw your pickles on the ground, go to jail
3. mis-use of a bus stop, if you sit at a bus stop and don't get on the bus when it stops...citation
4. if you get stopped by the police and have empty pockets, they treat you as a vagrant which may or may not lead you to jail,
I was told at least $10.00

I think those are laws to keep the vagrants out of the mix, don't want to scare the cash slingin' tourists away...

OK, I know you're thinking, why where you in jail?
many moons ago, I blocked a guys punch, tagged his ear with a right,
he cried like a little beeatch and turned me in...
a few years later, i got in an auto accident, i had an unknown warrant out for my arrest.
after they released me, the judge gave me 100% of my bail back,
and apologized for wasting my time

anyway, Vegas is a screwed up freaky (in a bad, plasticy sorta way) place.
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LOL, that's funny!
 
#34
Since when is carry cash illegal? The police are nothing but "tax" collectors in this scenerio and if nothing is done to change this, it is only the beginning of further infringement of our rights!
Here's a scenario:
A man is a construction worker, he also has a past record for drug dealing. He paid his time/fine and in the eyes of the law, a free man. He gets paid on Friday from his employer, say $1000.00. He cashes the whole check and decides he want to go drinkin and maybe buy some friends a few beers. The cops grab him on his way to the bar, check him out and find the grand. They confiscate the money and send it in for tests. The tests come back traces of cocain. Dude's screwed!
He now has to go to court to prove his innocence.
He is smart enough to know that 80% of the currency in circulation has cocain traces, it's a fact.
He has to get his employer to come to court and vouch for his employee and that he did indeed pay him the $1000.00. He has to get the person at the bank to vouch for him that she/he cashed the cheque for the accused. All involved have take time off work/life to deal with this.
Most would be inclined to walk away from the money as it's just too difficult to get all the parts together. And how would you approach your boss to get him/her to vouch for you? Can you hear that conversation?
So, if you think that the cops aren't revenue collectors, you are living in a dream world.
What's worse, there are some who believe that the cops are doing the "right thing" in protecting us... they are reveune generators, plain and simple.
Folks, this is just the beginning of the end of our rights as we know it!
Fishheadjoe
 
#35
Brad Johnson said:
I'd hope this at least partially addresses the question of why someone might have a large (how nebulous is that?) amount of cash.

In my case I'd have to go to court (and of course taking that time off is my expense) to explain why I'd have $1800 in twenties on me. Because of the guilty until innocent mentality some people have. Many may never understand until it actually happens to them.
:hmm:

For many people, cash is still king.
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Earlier in this thread it was $1500.00

You are clearly GUILTY and obviously up to NO GOOD.
So save yourself the hassle with the police and just send me the cash ;)
 
#36
hbarcat said:
If the money is legitimately yours, then you have the right to demand it back and you have the means to get it back within the law.
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1) Innocent until proven guilty means they should have to prove guilt to seize your property. The accused is under no compunction to prove innocence in our legal system.

2) "The means to get it back within the law" = suing the police department. Better be able to afford a lawyer.
 
#37
We at work were just discussing the other day how apparently in various Texas towns (some) Police will say something along the lines of "we can arrest you, or you can surrender your cash and we'll clear your record".

If you've done nothing wrong, you could be defiant and insist on your rights, but then again, if the officers are corrupt then evidence against you can be fabricated.
 
#38
AlembicPlayer said:
is this the USA?
it's none of your business what I have in my car unless it's something illegal
if cash becomes illegal, we are looking at a much larger issue.

think about it
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Cash from the sale of a giant pile of drugs is illegal.

And I just recently was driving around with $1,700 cash on me. Suppose that I blew a stop sign or something (probable cause) and a cop pulled me over. If the cop sees the wad of twenties on my seat and asks me about it I will tell him where I got it from (I withdrew it from my bank account and I can verify this with a receipt) and if he asks me what I'm going to do with it I will tell him it's none of his business. The fact is he cannot legally take it from me (or anyone else in a similar situation) and if he does he is violating my civil rights.

But let's change things so that instead of $1,700 dollars, I have $24,000. And I nervously give the police several self-contradictory stories about where I got it from. Is there anyone who is going to believe this isn't drug money?
 

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