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CNC or not

CNC or not ?

  • I like my basses cut by hand.

    Votes: 8 2.8%
  • I prefer a cnc cut bass.

    Votes: 38 13.1%
  • I don't mind.

    Votes: 243 84.1%

  • Total voters
    289
  • Poll closed .
May 28, 2005
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I am just wondering if people mind wether their basses are made, using a CNC machine.
Simple.

Thanks for participating!

I just noticed that I should have included a body and neck option (as in; I prefer the neck to be made on eway but the body another etc) ...is there a way a poll can be altered once it is "life"?
 
For neck and body shaping, if done right, you wouldn't be able to know one from the other.
Some wood carving work being done where the hand made "mistakes" are programmed in for a CNC application.
Holding + or - .001" from piece to piece is pretty reasonable with CNC but impossible by hand IMO.
I think that the automated finish process (painting and buffing robots) are amazing but believe that doing this process by hand is still superior although EB gets some amazing finishes with automation.

Making 15 of these by hand would have been insane
 

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"Hand tools"?? No one uses "hand tools" to make basses. They all use milling machines. The ONLY difference is that the machine operator is mostly eliminated in the CNC process. This leads to better quality control and productivity.

The ONLY reason your favorite backyard luthier doesn't have a CNC machine is that he can't afford to buy one.
 
The difference between using a standard Bridgeport mill vs a CNC (we use Hauss) is speed, repeatability. and the ability to make some parts that couldn't be made otherwise (see photo; deep, tapered cavity in 6061 aluminum + or minus .001" at all points)

Agreed about the backyard builder with 1 caveat:
The reason those don't have CNC equipment is related to production volume
If you make 100 instruments a year the pay back time does not support CNC
If you make 100 instruments a day, your competitiors would put you out of business
if you didn't
Of course the backyard builder is probably buying aftermarket bodies and necks that were produced on a CNC machine
 
"Hand tools"?? No one uses "hand tools" to make basses. They all use milling machines. The ONLY difference is that the machine operator is mostly eliminated in the CNC process. This leads to better quality control and productivity.

Is that an answer to my "hand tools" statement?

You clearly have no clue of how a bass guitar is made.

I'll just leave this here:

YouTube - Ramirez Custom Bass Guitars: Neck Shaping

A CNC carved neck does not feel like a hand carved neck. It just doesn't...

The ONLY reason your favorite backyard luthier doesn't have a CNC machine is that he can't afford to buy one.

Yeah, I'm sure Fodera can't afford a CNC router... :rollno:
 
CNC will give provide better accuracy,and tighter fit. If it is programed correctly, there will be no difference in "feel" to hand shaped, however, that is the big "IF".

The maker can always add a little hand shaping after milling if they want.
 
Even high-end custom bass builders use CNC equipment. I'm not saying every one, but definitely many. For some, it's the ability to translate their design into CAD that's part of the artistry. As stated before it has more to do with wood selection, overall design, and proper set up.
 
Agreed about the backyard builder with 1 caveat:
The reason those don't have CNC equipment is related to production volume
If you make 100 instruments a year the pay back time does not support CNC

CNC routers are getting more and more affordable. ($8-10k for a ready-made production grade machine. Homebrew for 1/4 that, if you have the time...) I'd say that 100/yr would easily justify CNC.