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Colin Hodgkinson

I use to watch back door play live regulalry during the 70's in my home town of Hull in the UK.

He used to play a white twin neck with a 6 string plus a 4. He was amazing and had a small cult following. At that time in the UK Soft Machine and Elton Dean type saxello was where it was at and Back Door followed the trend.

Sean Middleton
 
I've never heard of Colin playing a doubleneck bass before - I know he had a custom-built Carl Thompson 4-string built in 1978 (there is a picture at the Carl Thompson website and in 'The Bass Book'), but apart from that, he has consistently used a 1960 Fender Precision (He occasionally plays a Warwick Thumb 5-string fretless).

David

[This message has been edited by David Benyahia (edited April 07, 2000).]
 
While visiting Britain in '72, all my muso buds were telling me to see Back Door....the bassist was the Hendrix of the instrument, I was told. Shortly after, the band was playing in London and I was due to fly back to Australia two days afterwards. Yes were also on at the same time, and I opted for them. Bought the Back Door album on my way to the airport and played it upon my return....and I howled at the moon for days at my missing seeing this band live.

Wore out the record over the ensuing years, so I'm following this thread closely for availability of that album on cd, or any subsequent Hodg stuff.

fwiw, I figure a 3-piece of CH, drums and keys would be my preference. The sax was just a little too avant- garde for my liking.

Cheers

John

 
John - In 1972, Back Door played at Ronnie Scott's in London, supporting Return To Forever. If that was the gig that you missed, you would have got to see Stanley Clarke in action as well! The audience consisted of every name bass player in the UK at the time!

Paul Scott ('Bassist' contributor) e-mailed me yesterday to let me know that Colin just sent him a book of transcriptions from 'The Bottom Line'. It takes quite a lot of technique (and a plectrum) to play the pieces properly. The book will soon be available from The Bass Centre and other good bass stores.

Colin also says that the Back Door album is due out any day now. (More details when I get them.)
www.amazon.com used to sell Colin's solo CD, but they've been out of stock for ages. It might be worth checking the site every now and again though.

Colin's album is also available from the Bass Centre. Check their website at www.basscentre.com.

David
 
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David.....

Kick a guy while he's down, huh? <just kidding>

Thanks for that information, and I'll follow any updates to this thread assiduously.

fwiw, Yes were really "on".....I was a guitar player at that time, so went to see Howe especially. He ripped the place up, but a certain Mr Squire also messed with my head considerably.

Cheers

John
 
Info just in about Colin's new book:

The book contains seven tracks from 'The Bottom Line', including '32-30 Blues' and 'San Fransisco Bay Blues'. All songs are presented in tab and notation, with left and right handed guide photographs, and
plectrum directions - plus a spare copy of The Bottom Line CD.

Back Door are expected to do a reunion tour to support the reissued albums. Hooray!!!

David
 
For anyone that keeps back issues of 'Bassist', there are a couple of Back Door transcriptions in the September 1998 issue (Jah Wobble is on the cover).

The article transcribes sections from two tracks from the first Back Door album - the saxophone solo section of 'Lieutenant Loose' and what I presume is the main riff of 'Back Door'.

Neither piece is very difficult - they just require you to use a slap-thumb style technique to strum double-stops.

If people want these, let me know, and I'll happily e-mail the notation and tab for them.

David
 
Bruce and David

Bruce, thanks for the plug. I just recently got into Colin's stuff myself, it is GREAT!!, unfortunately the only thing I can get a hold of is the real audio off of the german Amazon.de site. In the US it is impossible to get "The Bottom Line."

FYI, I have posted som on line lessons of Autumn Leaves and Shadow of Your Smile on www.bassically.net, with notation, performance notes and real audio.

Mike
 
Still no word on the Back Door CDs. WHERE ARE THEY?
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I haven't heard any Back Door recordings yet, so I don't know quite what to expect - some people say avant-garde, some say funk, light-fusion, jazz-blues - there's a huge range of contrasting descriptions.

To put my mind at rest a bit, could people who've heard Back Door please name a track (a band piece please) and describe it for me in terms of style, feel, sound, length, bass-playing, etc?

Help me!!!

David
 
David...I feel your pain......

I haven't heard Back Door for 15-20 years, but the memories linger. I'd describe them as jazz-blues.....I wasn't a great fan of the sax in the songs (avant -garde is a way I'd describe it, somewhat atonal is another, but free form sax has never fell pleasantly to my ear, so don't read too much into that ). I can't really get into deep and meaningful descriptions without hearing the album again, but I've been on a quest to track it down since reading this thread. It appears a mate knows a bloke, etc who may still have a copy of the record around somewhere. Still awaiting those investigations.....and if it's fruitful, I'd send you a dub tape of course.

Meant to mention, when I reply my thanks to you for emailing Back Door info to me, my messages get returned for some reason. Don't think your efforts are unappreciated, please!

Cheers

John
 
David...I feel your pain......

I haven't heard Back Door for 15-20 years, but the memories linger. I'd describe them as jazz-blues.....I wasn't a great fan of the sax in the songs (avant -garde is a way I'd describe it, somewhat atonal is another, but free form sax has never fell pleasantly to my ear, so don't read too much into that ). I can't really get into deep and meaningful descriptions without hearing the album again, but I've been on a quest to track it down since reading this thread. It appears a mate knows a bloke, etc who may still have a copy of the record around somewhere. Still awaiting those investigations.....and if it's fruitful, I'd send you a dub tape of course.

Meant to mention, when I reply my thanks to you for emailing Back Door info to me, my messages get returned for some reason. Don't think your efforts are unappreciated, please!

Cheers

John
 
I've just found this review of the first Back Door album at 'Rolling Stone' magazine's website.

Back Door
'Back Door'
Warner Brothers, 1973

The inner gatefold of this one comes complete with the musings of no fewer than five English scribes, who between them manage to invoke the music and/or spirits of Jimi Hendrix, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Yardbirds, Charlie Parker, Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane, Colloseum, King Curtis, the Hulk, the Thing, Cream, and Emerson, Lake and Palmer. The comparisons are unfair to the band as well as the consumer. How could any individual be a cross between Eric Clapton and Bruce Banner? Back Door's claim to our attention is not that they have succeeded in doing things past men have done but that they have breathed new life into the concepts of the instrumental trio and, in particular, bass playing. They have achieved this in such a spectacular way that Back Door is not only an impressive debut but important by any standards.

Colin Hodgkinson gives the Fender bass a role it has not been accustomed to. Instead of repetitively supporting the other instruments, Hodgkinson's bass at times plays lead. His solo on "Catcote Rag" is remarkable. He is the only guitarist in the group, yet he performs all the expected guitar chores and more.

Drummer Tony Hicks shows imagination but no desire to outshine companions. Refraining from extended solos, he remains an integral part of a tight unit.

Saxophonist/flautist Ron Aspery's playing is one moment aggressive ("Vienna Breakdown") and the next soothing ("Plantagenet"). Comparisons with prominent jazz musicians would be hackneyed, boring and inaccurate. The important thing is that he is playing well. Varying the approach produces almost a sampler album, a sampler of the kinds of things Aspery and Back Door are capable of. There must be more.

And there will be. The group has already recorded its second album, this one under Felix Pappalardi's direction at Electric Ladyland. Pappalardi had heard Back Door in its original limited edition on the Blakey label, a name inspired by England's Blakey Ridge where the group played for two years in a pub run by a man named (honest) Brian Jones. They recorded an album in London on June 3rd and 4th, 1972, and sold it in Jones's bar. A few copies fell into the hands of the British music press. Most importantly, a copy came into the possession of Warner Brothers, which has repackaged and distributed the album without touching the music. There are still no overdubs, vocals or electronic studio effects, just the unlikely instrumental trio of bass, drums and saxophone. The only intruding noise on the LP is the motorbike revving of two friends of Aspery, a confessed speedway buff.

It is hard to believe that a group like this could win over a pub audience. It is harder to believe that they did it for two years and nobody picked up on them. Whether they have strutted all the stuff they have to show or not we don't know. For now, Mr. Jones, it's more Guinness, please. And more Back Door. (RS 142)

PAUL GAMBACCINI


(Not a bad review, eh!)

David
 
Having spoken to Colin recently, I'm planning to do an interview with him. The results will hopefully be placed on TalkBass.

I'm hoping to speak to him again within the next fortnight. If anyone has any questions that they would like me to ask him, please let me know through this thread.

Thanks,

David
 
Something I didn't see mentioned about Colin here was the two recordings he did in the 80's with Neil Schon and Jan Hammer ("Schon & Hammer" and "Here To Stay"). Very "rock" oriented stuff, but also well done, Colin did some very tasty work on these records. Didn't show off the chordal stuff Colin seems to be famous here for, but some great ensemble playing.
 
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www.huxrecords.com has an album of some previously unreleased radio broadcasts.

Back Door was so Ron Aspery stylistically.

Immediately after the 72 gig at Ronnie's Stanley Clarke started double stopping.School Days etc.
The Return to Forever album shows a completely different approach prior to this 3 week stint.
 
Piccolo_Bass said:
Actually, I must admit that I have not heard anything by Back Door, due to the great difficulty of tracking down their albums on vinyl, so I'll have to wait a bit longer until they're reissued on CD.

The only Back Door song I do know is 'Roberta' from the '8th Street Nites' album, due to a transcription printed in Bassist last year. I've played the song at a few solo gigs, but I'd love to hear the original.

Bruce - Did Colin sing on Back Door songs? I imagine them to sound a bit like Weather Report/Return To Forever. Am I close?

Colin did sing on some cuts on "8th Street Nites".

The band's sound was sort of like Ornette Coleman meets Robert Johnson with lots of funk. Didn't sound like Weather Report or RTF in the slightest, they had their own sound completely.

I think the first 2 albums ar available on CD as imports though, you might want to check Invalid Link Removed or Abstract Logix