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Comparing a few BJF-designed bass pedals

Nov 29, 2008
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Today I did a narrowly focused comparison of three BJF-designed bass pedals that I meant to use for light overdrive. They were
  • One Control - Hooker’s Green Bassmachine 3-knob (HGB)
  • BJFe - Blueberry Bass Overdrive Futura (3BOD4K)
  • One Control - Blackberry Bass OD (3BOD4K, too apparently)
Several years ago, a question related to this comparison was asked in this sub-forum.

The background

Lately as I do final auditions of my pedals in preparation for a new pedalboard, I become reacquainted with certain pedals. Revisiting them in the context of my planned board layout, each has to play a role; both in itself and in relation to other pedals on the board. This has been educational.

In one loop of a bus pedal (aka a loop switcher) will be a raucous, metallic, very high gain distortion pedal into a warm, tube amp-in-a-box type of pedal. For bass guitar, I found that the hand wired Menatone None More Black (NMB) destroyed the PCB Leqtique 10/10 that previously was allocated for the first spot.

Today I sought to finalize the second spot, previously allocated to the Hooker’s Green Bassmachine. HGB worked well with NMB in this arrangement. But I wondered if I could do better.

The comparison

So I did a round robin comparison of HGB with these other two BJF bass pedal designs. On intuition or something, I chose not to include the One Control Blue 360 AIAB or Sonic Silver Peg, which among the BJF bass pedals I own might have been usable, too.

I found that when I used them for light overdrive, playing them with a Fender Custom Shop Jazz Bass with attributed mid-1960s to early 1970s Fender pickups and dead roundwound strings, the three pedals were as follows.

The results

Hooker's Green Bassmachine
3-knob was dark, with a tough, slightly resonant, midrange forward voice. Its Treble control was tuned low, in the area of clang below zing or sibilance. Even cranked it was noticeable, but subtle. So much so that I started to think of it as a rolloff only. Unlike the other pedals’ equivalent controls, the HGB’s Bass control is post-saturation. It is an EQ control. To this day, even after this comparison, there is just something special about HGB. I have read opinions to the contrary, but I think it is special. In comparison to the other two pedals, HGB sounds like what most players call an effect. Amp-esque, but as related to a processor used between a bass and an amp as to just a bass and an amp.

The One Control Blackberry (not to be confused with the BJFe hand wired version) impresses me anew each time I play it. I think my expectations of it were somewhat dim, and it keeps exceeding them by far. Anyway, in comparison to HGB this Blackberry felt and sounded very relaxed and open. It sounded altogether more like an amp-in-a-box, and was less inherently tough sounding. Its Depth control is pre-saturation. So if you use it for more low end by addition (not the only way to achieve that, by the way), you will introduce more saturation of the low end. I enjoyed searching for shades of sound and feel in the low drive range that was my objective. With careful volume matching, there is a lot to be found. A beautifully made and useful pedal.

My Blueberry Futura is what I think of as a transitional design, since it features a Treble control, but with the traditional Nature control instead a Bottom control. Not surprisingly it shared the relaxed and open feel of the Blackberry compared to HGB. However, unlike the other two, Blueberry Futura could be way open: its Treble control lets it present frequencies as high as sibilance and give a sense of air. Since, albeit with its different controls, I was able to dial in timbres equivalent to those I liked most in Blackberry, and since I liked its more ragged and fluttering texture at any given degree of drive, in the end it was Blueberry Futura’s Treble control that won it the pedalboard spot. Tough enough, and big and textured, it proved much more versatile for a variety of playing styles.

Afterword

There were no losers here. If anything, I renewed or discovered my affinity for each pedal in the comparison.

It occurred to me that I don't know for sure whether the new version of HGB, the 4-knob, simply relocates the Bass control from a micropot to a knob, or if it also has different treble response. I mention this since I watched a demo video of the 4-knob version in which at one point it sounded quite bright and metallic, which my 3-knob one just won't do.

Another thing that struck me was the rather handmade and somewhat loose feel of the BJFe pedal vs. the industrial feel of the One Control pedals. In any case size, those One Control pedals feel heavy, solid, and tight.
 
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I’ve had a few BBBOD iterations; an original BJFE, a Barefoot, the OC BlackBerry, and a Futura. They all have a slightly different character, but, are more similar than different. They all share the special attributes of the original; the touch sensitivity, and the creamy smoothness of the breakup when used as light OD. No kazoo here, folks.
 
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...in the end it was Blueberry Futura’s Treble control that won it the pedalboard spot.

Addendum:

Whatever I said in my first post still stands. But a moment ago, after playing some dirt pedals I wanted to revisit (including Solace State and Wreck'T 4-knob, which were great), Fuzzrocious Dark Driving (with treble mod) displaced Blueberry Futura in my pedalboard layout.

As has been well documented, Dark Driving was Ryan's take on the original Blueberry, although it is not a clone. Also well known is that Dark Driving is quirky AF to dial in. But as I have said before: when you learn its rules and find its sweet spots, Dark Driving is a glorious pedal, especially played loud.

Today I realized that its voice embodies my impression of the classic Fuzzrocious sound for bass guitar: mean (like a snarling ferret) and sensitive (like still waters that run deep), with complex, singing, saturated midrange. In Dark Driving it was that midrange plus its clang that got me.

I am very rational, and I listen to audio with discernment. But also I admit that when you want to know the musical truth about gear, you have to listen to it with your ears, mind, and heart. Today when I did that, I fell in love with Dark Driving again. Thank you, @rratajski!
 
Awesome! Thanks for the comparisons, I’ve had my eye on that LGBM..and speaking of the LGBM, does anyone know if there is a BJFE hand-wired equivalent?

Hello. Glad to post.

If you meant "HGBM", not "LGBM", then I don't know of a BJFe equivalent pedal. My understanding is that the Hooker's Green Bassmachine circuit was a One Control design originally, which Björn later refined.
 
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Fuzzrocious Dark Driving (with treble mod)

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I had to sell my John K Foundry recently for medical bills but I'm just about all caught up. I've been trying to find a BJFE BBBOD original or 3BOD4K (not the X high gain version) and keep missing out on them for one reason or another. Bjorn has offered to build me one but he is busy with a personal issue right now and I don't want to bother him. In the meantime I was thinking of the DarkDriving and remembered reading this thread. How important is the treble mod on the piece may I ask? Thank you for your time.
 
Can somebody explain to me the two versions? 3 knobs vs 4 knobs? Wich one is better?View attachment 7303085View attachment 7303086
IIRC the 3 knob had different tone options one was a treble roll off other versions had a "tilt" style tone. The 4 knob has separate bass and treble controls for Baxandall type control. All three have their sound and preferences. Plenty of grunt with a solid low end, great for growling low end that still has push and fundamental.

I had the different versions of the 3 knob built as these are popular designs for DIY builders. They sounded great but ultimately were not quite what I was looking for at the time. Have not tried the 2 band Bax version.

There is a complex history for BJ designed pedals and the companies that are associated including Barefoot, One Design and Mad Professor

 
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From Juhl years ago:

Actually both [edit: B and T on Futura] are boost only but Bass can balance out at about noon. Treble is really a boost after an LPF m,aking seemingly seethrough results.

Yes the Futura is partly made like the very first BBBOD’s and no mid hump while it has in addition a treble control to allow almost seethrough results and this the latest development that I find is the most useful.

The One Control Blackberry has instead of treble control a midboost at a frequency desirable on bass but not on drums or guitar but is also made like the very first BBBOD’s