Daion Savage PJ … thoughts?

[Green Knight]

Good day!
Anyone ever owned one? The neck specs sound dreamy to me. Interested in how the unconventional pickup spacing might affect tone as well as impressions of the stock pickups. Thanks!

 

[Jeff Scott]

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[GretschWretch]

Good day!
Anyone ever owned one? The neck specs sound dreamy to me. Interested in how the unconventional pickup spacing might affect tone as well as impressions of the stock pickups. Thanks!

Oh, the trouble you people can cause. Green Knight, you might just as well have beheaded me; I am having to un-case my Savages just to reply to your post.

For starters, my fretted weighs in (bathroom scale) at 8.2 pounds; the fretless at 7.8. (Who would have thought a mere twenty-two frets could weigh that much?) I'm sure that if I replaced the stock bridge/tailpieces I could reduce the weight of both instruments by at least 1/2 pound.

Neck profile (depth) is shallowish, more shallow than most instruments I have encountered. Taper is 4mm at the nut to 5.4 mm at the end of the fretboard. I think the taper is what gives the impression of a flatter profile. Whatever; I can navigate the neck quite facilely.

Regarding the pickups, as you have noted they are not in the traditional Fender positions. Even so, you can elicit a credible P-bass sound from them, close enough to satisfy me at any rate. And the electronics can provide a variety of useful sounds, way more than any of my Fenders or FSOs. I certainly am not the best person to ask this of, but I would not replace the stock pickups.

The only things I dislike about this bass are the Jetsons body shape and the fact that mine are blue. I have been on TalkBass long enough that most know I am a hidebound traditionalist when it comes to finishes and body shapes.

This being said, I have shifted so far over into roots-based acoustic music that I am trying to thin my herd of electric basses down to just two. I will not say these will be the last basses standing, but they certainly are candidates. I wanted a matching pair. For years I've had a blue fretless Savage and it seemingly took forever for a blue fretted to come up for sale. But when it did, I snagged it.

The cases alone are deserving of comment. The case for the fretless has "Linus" stenciled across it, while the fretted's case has decalalia for Javelin missles and Bell helicopters.

"Savage" indeed.

 

[Green Knight]

Thanks! That’s really helpful!!

 

[GretschWretch]

Here are a couple of demos to give some idea of the sound. These are not Savages, but still produce a similar sound. I would say mid-rangy.





This one is a Savage.

 

[Green Knight]

Are those basses active?

 

[GretschWretch]

Are those basses active?

Nope. Put them in their cases and they just lie there.

 

[Green Knight]

Nope. Put them in their cases and they just lie there.

I walked into that one.

 

[rawdge]

Oh, the trouble you people can cause. Green Knight, you might just as well have beheaded me; I am having to un-case my Savages just to reply to your post.

For starters, my fretted weighs in (bathroom scale) at 8.2 pounds; the fretless at 7.8. (Who would have thought a mere twenty-two frets could weigh that much?) I'm sure that if I replaced the stock bridge/tailpieces I could reduce the weight of both instruments by at least 1/2 pound.

Neck profile (depth) is shallowish, more shallow than most instruments I have encountered. Taper is 4mm at the nut to 5.4 mm at the end of the fretboard. I think the taper is what gives the impression of a flatter profile. Whatever; I can navigate the neck quite facilely.

Regarding the pickups, as you have noted they are not in the traditional Fender positions. Even so, you can elicit a credible P-bass sound from them, close enough to satisfy me at any rate. And the electronics can provide a variety of useful sounds, way more than any of my Fenders or FSOs. I certainly am not the best person to ask this of, but I would not replace the stock pickups.

The only things I dislike about this bass are the Jetsons body shape and the fact that mine are blue. I have been on TalkBass long enough that most know I am a hidebound traditionalist when it comes to finishes and body shapes.

This being said, I have shifted so far over into roots-based acoustic music that I am trying to thin my herd of electric basses down to just two. I will not say these will be the last basses standing, but they certainly are candidates. I wanted a matching pair. For years I've had a blue fretless Savage and it seemingly took forever for a blue fretted to come up for sale. But when it did, I snagged it.

The cases alone are deserving of comment. The case for the fretless has "Linus" stenciled across it, while the fretted's case has decalalia for Javelin missles and Bell helicopters.

"Savage" indeed.

If you ever want to part with the Fretless Savage, keep me in mind. I've been looking for a Daion Fretless, Savage or Mark.

 

[tsales4129]

Oh, the trouble you people can cause. Green Knight, you might just as well have beheaded me; I am having to un-case my Savages just to reply to your post.

For starters, my fretted weighs in (bathroom scale) at 8.2 pounds; the fretless at 7.8. (Who would have thought a mere twenty-two frets could weigh that much?) I'm sure that if I replaced the stock bridge/tailpieces I could reduce the weight of both instruments by at least 1/2 pound.

Neck profile (depth) is shallowish, more shallow than most instruments I have encountered. Taper is 4mm at the nut to 5.4 mm at the end of the fretboard. I think the taper is what gives the impression of a flatter profile. Whatever; I can navigate the neck quite facilely.

Regarding the pickups, as you have noted they are not in the traditional Fender positions. Even so, you can elicit a credible P-bass sound from them, close enough to satisfy me at any rate. And the electronics can provide a variety of useful sounds, way more than any of my Fenders or FSOs. I certainly am not the best person to ask this of, but I would not replace the stock pickups.

The only things I dislike about this bass are the Jetsons body shape and the fact that mine are blue. I have been on TalkBass long enough that most know I am a hidebound traditionalist when it comes to finishes and body shapes.

This being said, I have shifted so far over into roots-based acoustic music that I am trying to thin my herd of electric basses down to just two. I will not say these will be the last basses standing, but they certainly are candidates. I wanted a matching pair. For years I've had a blue fretless Savage and it seemingly took forever for a blue fretted to come up for sale. But when it did, I snagged it.

The cases alone are deserving of comment. The case for the fretless has "Linus" stenciled across it, while the fretted's case has decalalia for Javelin missles and Bell helicopters.

"Savage" indeed.

GretschWretch if you are interested at any point in parting with your fretted Savage, I'd love to chat about that with you. I just got back from some shows in Europe and some recording at Hansa (Berlin) and my blue Savage was getting it all done.

 

[tsales4129]

Oh, the trouble you people can cause. Green Knight, you might just as well have beheaded me; I am having to un-case my Savages just to reply to your post.

For starters, my fretted weighs in (bathroom scale) at 8.2 pounds; the fretless at 7.8. (Who would have thought a mere twenty-two frets could weigh that much?) I'm sure that if I replaced the stock bridge/tailpieces I could reduce the weight of both instruments by at least 1/2 pound.

Neck profile (depth) is shallowish, more shallow than most instruments I have encountered. Taper is 4mm at the nut to 5.4 mm at the end of the fretboard. I think the taper is what gives the impression of a flatter profile. Whatever; I can navigate the neck quite facilely.

Regarding the pickups, as you have noted they are not in the traditional Fender positions. Even so, you can elicit a credible P-bass sound from them, close enough to satisfy me at any rate. And the electronics can provide a variety of useful sounds, way more than any of my Fenders or FSOs. I certainly am not the best person to ask this of, but I would not replace the stock pickups.

The only things I dislike about this bass are the Jetsons body shape and the fact that mine are blue. I have been on TalkBass long enough that most know I am a hidebound traditionalist when it comes to finishes and body shapes.

This being said, I have shifted so far over into roots-based acoustic music that I am trying to thin my herd of electric basses down to just two. I will not say these will be the last basses standing, but they certainly are candidates. I wanted a matching pair. For years I've had a blue fretless Savage and it seemingly took forever for a blue fretted to come up for sale. But when it did, I snagged it.

The cases alone are deserving of comment. The case for the fretless has "Linus" stenciled across it, while the fretted's case has decalalia for Javelin missles and Bell helicopters.

"Savage" indeed.

GretschWretch if you are interested at any point in parting with your fretted Savage, I'd love to chat about that with you. I just got back from some shows in Europe and some recording at Hansa (Berlin) and my blue Savage was getting it all done.