Even to this day I love the recordings of Earth Wind and Fire. The were one of the reasons why I am a bass player today. I have been trying to find live concert footage of EWF on youtube and every time I watch one of those clips I'm asking myself: "What the hell is Verdine doing?" I know McEnroe is not the same player as he used to be and Franz Klammer doesn't hammer down the steeps like he did when he was younger, but I'm sure they still are older versions of their former selves. But when I watch Verdine play now (there are also some clips with him trying out basses in stores) I wonder if he ever knew how to play. His playing isn't remotely similar to anything that was on those early EWF recordings. Whoever recorded Shining Star or Serpentine Fire had chops feel and imagination.Never in a million years would I think Verdine could ever have come up with these brilliant basslines when I listen to how he sounds now. Are there any live youtube clips where he actually plays the bass and sound good? I'd love to have that, because it is so painful to see him now.