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Do you mind garbage scavengers?
- Thread starter Bass Viking
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Doesn't go into a land fill. I'm surrounded by trees. They love CO2.
true,.. but i heard there's too much CO2. we recycle our plastics,.. even bags.
I like them. Example: Bought my house 5 years ago and the previous owners left tons of stuff behind. One such item was a rusty propane tank. Put it out at the trash and in 5 minutes its gone. Pretty sure the trash pickup would not have taken it. Thank you Trash scramblers!
Nope. Don't tell anybody, but things are getting GREENER because of CO2 lately. It's an important part of the existence of life on our planet. But it's cyclical. Levels have been cycling for at least the last several hundred thousand years. We're kind of in a medium spot right now. They've been higher and they've been lower.
I used to recycle, until someone gave me a DVD of the Penn and Teller Bullsh** episode on recycling. That began a quest for more information on recycling. What I learned was jaw dropping. I just recycle Aluminum now.
On a somewhat related note, it is significantly more environmentally friendly to make paper from trees than make it from recycled paper. The process involves substantially less chemicals. And trees are like potatoes: If you need more, you just grow more.
I'm fine with it, because not only does it make it more convenient for me to get rid of bulky or unsightly stuff, but I've also been that guy before. It's pretty nice to be able to just drive down the road on bulk day and find good free stuff to take home.
From nearly anyone else I would have though this was satire. Maybe we can give them a snappy name like dalit.
Yes. Burning plastics releases CO2 that has been sequestered from the system for hundreds of millions of years. It alters the relative proportions of gases in the atmosphere:
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That's why I do it!From nearly anyone else I would have though this was satire. Maybe we can give them a snappy name like dalit.
Yes. Burning plastics releases CO2 that has been sequestered from the system for hundreds of millions of years. It alters the relative proportions of gases in the atmosphere:
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My trees love it.
That's exactly what I do, too. It always works. That's better than having someone going through the recycling bin in the front or the garbage cans in the back.
Life (including plants) is essentially carbon neutral, releasing tons of long-stored carbon into the cycle is not beneficial and alters the atmosphere to dangerous conditions for current ecosystems and lifeforms that evolved when that excess carbon was not present.
Please don't turn this into a science denialism thread. You're simply wrong; that's okay, learn from your mistakes.
Earth getting greener due to rising CO2, global snapshot shows
Rising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere have increased plant growth across the planet over the past three decades, a new study has found.
Key points
- A few areas on Earth have browned but the vast majority have greened
- Plant coverage has grown by 18 million square kilometres in a few decades
- The main cause is increase in atmospheric CO2
- Nitrogen from agricultural fertilisers has also contributed
The most comprehensive modelling of remote sensing data so far shows the area on Earth covered by plants in this time has increased by 18 million square kilometres — about 2.5 times the size of the Australian continent — largely due to the fertilising effect of carbon dioxide (CO2).
"[The greening] has the ability to fundamentally change the cycling of water and carbon in the climate system," said Dr Zaichun Zhu, from Peking University in China and lead author of the new study, which appears today in the journal Link Removed.
"Carbon fertilisation is the dominant process for greening across the globe, particularly in the tropics because there's so much leaf area there."
Dr Pep Canadell
"This is a snapshot of humans' global influence on the functioning of the entire global biosphere," said co-author CSIRO's Dr Pep Canadell of the Global Carbon Project.
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It has "benefits" for plant life but is net-detrimental. For example increased CO2 leads to bigger algal blooms which are bad for other aquatic life. Not to mention it's forcing on warming.
I believe, you're on the money there
Inside that news cutting, is the quote,Typical of scientists these days, the Dr. is playing the diplomat. But his understanding is not ambiguously rendered. He just won't say which way things can go. I'm sure he's in your camp, though.
It's a very complex 'recycling system' we have at our disposal but it may not be so hard to predict, broadly speaking. This is proving to be correct. Things are not getting any better. So, it may be foolhardy and dangerous to think we can actually control things, in any way beyond rudimentary input and adjusting our bad behavior, and easily avoid calamity. It may be best, all things considered, to be more cautious and more sensible. We can easily do this
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The Salvation Army store has a big problem.
People drop off donations of good used stuff for the store after hours. Other second hand goods traders flog the best of it overnight. Other people dump junk and out and out rubbish.
People drop off donations of good used stuff for the store after hours. Other second hand goods traders flog the best of it overnight. Other people dump junk and out and out rubbish.
If I threw it out, believe me no one else wants it.
I won't say I save used fast food bags, because I dont. Wait...
I won't say I save used fast food bags, because I dont. Wait...
... it may be foolhardy and dangerous to think we can actually control things, in any way beyond rudimentary input and adjusting our bad behavior, and easily avoid calamity. It may be best, all things considered, to be more cautious and more sensible. We can easily do this
Witch!!
Heretic!!
We must make gold offerings to the Earth Gods.
Saving the planet, as well as humanity, requires large, costly, international, centralized planning.
Your last paragraph is irony. (i.e. I won't if you don't).
Regarding the first paragraph, you and I must be reading different books.
My property was logged a couple of years ago, leaving a few hundred trees laying around waiting to be cut up for small projects or firewood. While we were enjoying a large campfire a few weekends ago, I was explaining to our grandchildren that when wood rots on the ground, it gives back the carbon dioxide over the decades it takes to rot. When you burn it, all the CO2 is realeased into the atmosphere, doing for the trees and grass around us what a shot of oxygen would do for us.
The more I know, the more fascinated I am with the effectiveness of our relatively closed, cyclic system, powered by radiation from our sun as well as cosmic rays (which very much affect our cloud formations).
Then quit screwing the system by introducing things that haven't been in the system for hundreds of millions of years.Your last paragraph is irony. (i.e. I won't if you don't).
Regarding the first paragraph, you and I must be reading different books.
My property was logged a couple of years ago, leaving a few hundred trees laying around waiting to be cut up for small projects or firewood. While we were enjoying a large campfire a few weekends ago, I was explaining to our grandchildren that when wood rots on the ground, it gives back the carbon dioxide over the decades it takes to rot. When you burn it, all the CO2 is realeased into the atmosphere, doing for the trees and grass around us what a shot of oxygen would do for us.
The more I know, the more fascinated I am with the effectiveness of our relatively closed, cyclic system, powered by radiation from our sun as well as cosmic rays (which very much affect our cloud formations).
