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Does anyone think guitar is harder than bass?

Would someone please put a stake in this thread. The whole discussion is a lot like the Lillypution argument in Gulliver's Travels. Which end of the egg do you open? What comes first the chicken or the egg? It has become an almost endless blight on Talk Bass and clearly there are more beneficial subjects to the players here seeking to improve their ability to play bass. Besides do you really want to give guitar players more ammunition, they are already the show boats do you want them to become insufferable show boats too. :ninja:
 
I find it amusing that with all the clearly ridiculous, nonsensical threads that get started here, people want to see this one obliterated - and waste bandwith they deem so precious to try and have this closed. I think this thread it ULTRA important for a forum such as talkbass. Whether you agree or disagree with whatever opinions are stated - it gets the thoughts going, raises important issues and feelings, and it gets people talking here - at talkbass.
 
Well, it's pretty much all been said, but I believe that it is easyer to play a repertoire of say 20 songs on the bass than on the guitar when you begin as a musician. However, it is more difficult to be at a level that can impress your audience or other musicians on the bass than on the guitar. Finaly, both are equaly difficult to Master.
 
My observation / 2 cents -

My old drummer used to mess around on my guitar and sometimes my bass. Lots of guitarists I used to play with messed around on bass too.
But it was usually only the very talented guitarists that could pick up a bass and actually play audible riffs.....the rest could not get past the fret buzz, string noise flabber and wide frets before putting it down and saying "f*ck man I dunno how you play that thing".

Technique on Bass is harder. I way see more bassists with crap technique than guitarists, with their hands cramped over the neck and curled up in a little ball screaming "please mister guitarist, don't make stretch my pinky all the way to the minor 3rd"

I see way more poor bass players in bands than poor guitarists, players that given a 20 second solo will just noodle on some lame little pentatonic embellishment. And that's because it takes a dedicated and concerted player to utilise & exploit the musicality and potentional of the bass. Its commonground for players to just follow the herd of roots and fifths, often because their too scared and not confident enough to venture outside of it in fear of overplaying or contravening the "less is more" holy covenant. Guitarists needn't worry about such trivial rules and confides in the pleb realm of the 4 string sidekick.

In terms of popular bands, nobody can deny the HOW MUCH IT STANDS OUT when bass player is obviously a more prominent or skilled player than the guitarist. A player who's tone, feel and direction has everybody moving and nodding their head, even though they probably don't know what is making them do it. They look at the guitarist instinctively, but hmmm he's nothing out of the ordinary.
If bass was so much easier, wouldn't this be the default situation?
 
When I first started out on bass I wanted to learn a couple of Metallica and Iron Maiden tunes. One thing is for sure. I had to spend a hell of a lot more time working on my bass plucking for songs like Blackened or Run to the hills then learning to play them on guitar.

So I guess it depends on what kind of music your playing.
 
MistaMarko said:
When I think about it, guitarists are usually playing solos that are way faster, they are more exposed so mess-ups are more noticeable, they are playing more than one note at a time. So, is a guitar harder to play than a bass? I mean, a couple little eighth notes isnt hard. What makes a bass so significant then?

I play guitar and bass, both proficiently and I can tell you for sure that they are equally difficult, depending on how you measure. You could become an "ok" bass player more quickly than you could become an "ok" guitarist, but who wants to be "Ok". To be excellent at either takes an equal amount of effort. I think this is probably true for virtually any musical instrument.
 
Skel said:
I play guitar and bass, both proficiently and I can tell you for sure that they are equally difficult, depending on how you measure. You could become an "ok" bass player more quickly than you could become an "ok" guitarist, but who wants to be "Ok". To be excellent at either takes an equal amount of effort. I think this is probably true for virtually any musical instrument.


Yes Yes Yes....


BTW, it's harder to get better at bass while posting on this forum:eyebrow:
 
even if there was an answer to which instrument is harder to play or easier to play..what would you guys get out of it...would you suddenly drop bass or guitar and play the other just because one is easier? probably not..MOST of you play bass because you love it, so i really dont see why so many people wasted their time trying to argue which instrument is easier or harder...
 
Most instruments are easy to play poorly and hard to play well. The thing that is most interesting is how hard they are to play competently. Many, many instruments are more difficult to play competently than either guitar or bass. This can be a function of mechanics (oboe, French horn, strings like violin, and organ (as in four ranks plus pedals) are darn hard to play) or the complexity of the music commonly written for the instrument. Strumming basic chords on a guitar or playing simple bass lines is sufficient to play a lot of popular music. Reaching only that level of competency on an oboe or violin makes you a beginner.

The skills that make for a competent guitarist are not the same as those for a competent bassist. I would rather have a guitarist with good chops and a bassist with good musical knowledge than the opposite. A guitarist lacking the ability to transition chords, mute strings, and play basic licks is very limiting. And, a bassist who doesn't understand how the melody, progression, and rhythm fit together cannot take the band where it needs to go.

I play lots of instruments including guitar and bass. If I had to boil it down to one thing regarding technique, the main difference is that getting the right strings to voice properly while muting the others is more challenging on guitar than on bass. Guitars typically have more strings, and it takes less energy to get a guitar string vibrating than a bass string. So, muting techniques are more critical and harder to master on guitar than on bass. Aside from that I think the differences are negligible.
 
pocketmonster said:
The skills that make for a competent guitarist are not the same as those for a competent bassist. I would rather have a guitarist with good chops and a bassist with good musical knowledge than the opposite. A guitarist lacking the ability to transition chords, mute strings, and play basic licks is very limiting. And, a bassist who doesn't understand how the melody, progression, and rhythm fit together cannot take the band where it needs to go.

So basically, the smart kids play bass.
 
Joe Nerve said:
I find it amusing that with all the clearly ridiculous, nonsensical threads that get started here, people want to see this one obliterated - and waste bandwith they deem so precious to try and have this closed. I think this thread it ULTRA important for a forum such as talkbass. Whether you agree or disagree with whatever opinions are stated - it gets the thoughts going, raises important issues and feelings, and it gets people talking here - at talkbass.

Indeed.


Here's my take on it. Take a GSus4 chord...play it on a guitar cleanly with no extra noise at the 3rd fret. Then try to do the same thing on a six string bass. Which is harder?