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Don't you just hate it when....

You try out a bass in the store and it sounds great on its own, and then you get it in a band situation and don't like the tone? I just had this happen to me at band practice, was using my new Squier CV 50s P bass. In the end I abandoned using it and turned back to my Spector Euro LX 5er. I really hoped the P bass would get me some nice fat vintage tones, but instead I ended up with a kind of woody sound, without much low end (weirdly). I'm going to tinker with my graphic EQ to see what I can get, but at the moment I feel :(
 
The squier CV 50s P bass -as most of Squier basses- comes with crappy strings.
Get some flats for that or some nickelwounds and try again ;)
Has happened to me too with my VM P. Liked the sound at home, hated it in rehearsal, changed the strings with Fender nickels and voila! Super-nice vintage tone :)
If you already have changed em though, and still don't like the sound, maybe it's not a bass for you. After all, the EURO is a top bass, especially compared to squiers (no matter how good they might be) so comparing them isn't fair.
I also have a Spector Rebop and of course i think it sounds much better then the VM P, but as i said, with new strings, it's a whole new instrument.
 
Hmmmmm, mine appears to have D'Addarios on it.....they have coloured ball ends. Is there another manufacturer who uses these, or just D'addario?

And yes, comparing it to my Spector MAY be unfair. And I am starting to think my rig isn't working quite right, it seems to lack something tonally....
 
Well, at least you quickly realized it wasn't producing like you thought it should.

I remember playing with a guitarist who's sound was pretty lacking, no presence at all, but he kept pushing it through all night, just kept turning up the volume. REALLY annoying.

"But this sounded GREAT in my bedroom...I don't understand..."

Bedroom tone... more misleading that Music Store tone... none of which have jack squat to do with on-stage tone.
 
i also suffer from this bedroom tone syndrome when playing in a band, are these the possible options for getting a good tone in a band(?) :

1. change your strings.

2. play around with the EQs.

3. try every bass you possibly can try until you get a good tone in your band.

seems to be the suggestions in this thread
 
Yup, woody voice is the nature of the P pups in comparrison to what your spector does and of course the squires gonna sound lacking compared to those nice humbuckers and preamp equipted spector. You could try putting an active EMG P pup in the squire if you otherwise like it. And the EMG preamp useing stacked bass and treble pot. Alterenately if wanting to stay passive for the P, try Dimazrio or Seymour Duncan P pup. Its gonna take a lot of eq fiddling (I hope you got at least an 8 band eq) and probably some fiddling with gain structures thru processor or amp. Your gonna have to get the squire sounding as comprable to the spector as you can. Not the same as spectors neck favoring pup voice version, but comprable.

Imo 90% or more of in the bedroom practice should be in the mix. With the other sound source playing thru the same speakers or headphones as your bass. Even if this is just with a drum machine. Said drum machine must create a similiar voice to the drums being used by the band. Preferably play along with recordings of the band minus your instrument. Or at least with drum machine and the other main soundbed instrument of the band. Or with recording of other bands who have similair sound to yours.

Ones primary voice should be one crafted to sound good in the mix. If your guitar players wont adjust their sound to sound good in the mix. They either need replacing (best option) or the rest of the band must modify their voices to sound good in the mix with the guitar players. Better yet, take away the guitars players rigs. Have them play thru their fave processor set for ready for recording tone. This signal is then sent to Pa with some nice person doing whatever must be done to make guitars ound good thru Pa in the Mix. Lol. If more guitar players spent more time playing along with mp3's thru headphones, theyd have better in the mix voices. Same goes for bass players too. Lol,

Thats how you get sounds good in the mix voicing. By tweaking your voice in the mix and only in the mix. Sometimes the main tweak is adding more overdrive. Compared to the sounds wonderful solo voice which sounds weak in the mix.

Those who craft their instruments voice solo should not play in bands. O ok, so everyone does that some. But untill a peepp learns to tweak their voice in the mix to sound good in the mix, its never going to be as good as it can be in the mix. If nothing else, use cd;s or mp3's of similiar sounding bands as the background in the mix source for coming up with your ready for recording voice.

That all done, you can start tryhing the instument out with the band spending time initially getting it to sound good with the drums, then the next main instrument added in. Etc. Getting input from the rest of the band about how your isntrument is sounding. If more bands did this cooperative in the mix best voices creating. Theyd not only sound better, theyd make better music together. Imo.
 
If you typicaly scoop your mids (many bass players do) P bass don't respond well to that IMO.

Try bumping up the mids on your E/Q and see how it sits in the mix then.

It may be a sound you aren't used to hearing, so give it a little time for your ears to get accustomed to.

A decent P bass should sit in the mix very well between the kick drum and guitar without stepping too hard on either.
 
"Bedroom tone" is a common occurrence. What sounds good in your bedroom frequently doesn't translate at all when in a live mix.

However, "Guitar Center Tone" is even more misleading...

The ABSOLUTE WORST PLACE in the world to try to get a reading on tone?
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