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Double neck Bass/Guitar Pro's/Cons

I know Carvin stopped listing doublenecks in their catalogs sometime in the early 1990's, but I thought they would still do them on custom order.

Oh well. Then I'd recommend buying two used Carvins and joining them together. That would actually be an easy job.
 
I have a Carvin doubleneck that I bought around 1988. It's 6-string guitar on top, 4-string fretted bass on the bottom, both with inline headstocks, all black. It's not that heavy, about 12 lbs. Both necks sound good, and feel and play about like the equivalent Carvin models.

Back in those days, I was really into Rickenbackers, and I was thinking about getting a Rick doubleneck. I tried a couple of the Rick doublenecks in stores, and I found them to be just awful, really heavy and clumsy to play. I didn't know much about Carvin then, and I wandered into Carvin's Hollywood store. And there was this black doubleneck hanging on the wall. They said it had been ordered by some rock star and then cancelled. It was unusual because the guitar was on top. I immediately liked it and bought it (about $1100).

I know that double necks with the guitar on top are rare, because the ones I see all have the guitar on the bottom. But why? Even though I've never played one, I know I'd rather have the bass on the bottom, I play my guitars up higher than my basses anyway.

Anyways I'm still lookin'. It's not something I need at all, but it sho would be nice to have.
 
I have yet to see anyone use a 6-string electric/bass double neck in a necessary, vital, or productive way in the context of a single song. As noted above, even Geddy only played the bass neck on his AFAIK.

If anyone has a video proving me wrong I'd love to see it and will gladly eat my words.

Now, I find the prospect of a fretted/fretless double neck bass very promising. And I own a six-string/baritone doubleneck, which I have switched back and forth on in the same song.
 
A few years back, I helped a Rickenbacker-fanatic friend build a custom doubleneck out of two junker Rick 3000 basses. The upper neck became a long scale (27", if I remember right) guitar, and the lower neck became a short scale 5 string bass. We spliced the two bodies together and made it all look like a factory custom. It's a cool instrument.
 
And then there times when, you know, two necks just aren't enough to keep the fans screaming. You have to have a Quad Guitar, or a Double Double Neck.

Mike Lipe and I built this monster for guitarist Michael Angelo Batio. The four guitars are completely separate and are attached to an aluminum back frame. The kit includes other back frames so the guitars can be arranged in other configurations too. We made it as light as possible. As shown (that's me modeling it!) it weighs about 20 lbs.

I tried to convince him that he needed at least two bass necks to complete the kit, but he didn't go for it.
 

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And then there times when, you know, two necks just aren't enough to keep the fans screaming. You have to have a Quad Guitar, or a Double Double Neck.

Mike Lipe and I built this monster for guitarist Michael Angelo Batio. The four guitars are completely separate and are attached to an aluminum back frame. The kit includes other back frames so the guitars can be arranged in other configurations too. We made it as light as possible. As shown (that's me modeling it!) it weighs about 20 lbs.

I tried to convince him that he needed at least two bass necks to complete the kit, but he didn't go for it.

Very cool Bruce, I didn't know you helped build that. I've seen Batio play this many times.

Anyone who hasn't seen Michael Angelo Batio play this thing, it is beyond unbelievable. He's ambidextrous, and he shreds two necks at once. Nothing personal against El Ten Eleven, but let's just say Batio doesn't need a looper. :)
 
Now, I find the prospect of a fretted/fretless double neck bass very promising. And I own a six-string/baritone doubleneck, which I have switched back and forth on in the same song.

I also am fascinated by the idea of a fretted/fretless switchable bass. I could see that. In fact, there is a local luthier who has patented a single neck switching system that he's trying to promote. I keep waving money in his face, trying to get him to build me a 6 string fretted/fretless bass, but so far he'll only build 4 bangers.

Given the weight of double necks, I wonder why they aren't all semi-hollow bodies?
 
I have yet to see anyone use a 6-string electric/bass double neck in a necessary, vital, or productive way in the context of a single song. As noted above, even Geddy only played the bass neck on his AFAIK.

If anyone has a video proving me wrong I'd love to see it and will gladly eat my words.

Now, I find the prospect of a fretted/fretless double neck bass very promising. And I own a six-string/baritone doubleneck, which I have switched back and forth on in the same song.

Not sure what you are trying to say... But as already mentioned Mike Rutherford making quite good use of his Ric double.

Check out this video on YouTube:

Genesis - Dancing with the Moonlit Knight - YouTube
 
Very cool Bruce, I didn't know you helped build that. I've seen Batio play this many times.

Anyone who hasn't seen Michael Angelo Batio play this thing, it is beyond unbelievable. He's ambidextrous, and he shreds two necks at once. Nothing personal against El Ten Eleven, but let's just say Batio doesn't need a looper. :)

Just to clarify, Michael had an earlier Quad Guitar made for him by Chandler. Most of the older videos showing him doing the 4-neck thing were with that one. He only played it on one song in his concerts, but it became such a signature thing. Anyway, the Chandler Quad came apart into two flight cases and, a couple of years ago, half of it got stolen. So, he stopped doing the 4-neck act, and his fans were pissed.

Michael is a Dean endorser, and he convinced them to sponsor construction of a new improved Super Quad Guitar. Dean sent the job to us, but they paid for it. Those look like Dean necks, but they are custom made by us. I made the main structures of the necks and all of the special metal parts. Mike Lipe did the shaping and detail work on the necks, built the bodies, and did the final assembly. The finish was done by Scary Graphics and Pat Wilkins.

You may not realize it, but the larger guitar companies will often subcontract out the construction of prototype or endorser instruments to small specialty Luthiers like us. Even when they have their own custom shops, it can be cheaper and faster to have us build the oddball instruments that you see at the NAMM show or out with some rock star. And these days, many of the smaller companies can't afford to keep their own custom shops going. Mike and I have built about a hundred specials for various companies over the last decade.

This one was a fun project, just to stretch the limits. Michael Batio participated in the design of it and came by my shop several times during the construction. An interesting guy, very knowledgeable technically. He fully understands that the 4-neck thing is a stunt for the fans, and would rather play his magic on a single guitar. But, this is show business!
 
Bass up top looks best in my opinion, but the guitar neck is more difficult to play that way unless you have it on a short strap, then I find the bass way too high to play comfortably.
Might work fine for those used to having their bass under the chin, but not me.

When I was a teenager I had a double-neck, and the first time I showed it to my guitar teacher he picked it up, postitioned his hands as if there were an invisible neck equidistant between the two (extant) necks, and, in his best Goldilocks & The Three Bears voice, said "This one's too high! And this one's too low!"
 
Just to clarify, Michael had an earlier Quad Guitar made for him by Chandler. Most of the older videos showing him doing the 4-neck thing were with that one. He only played it on one song in his concerts, but it became such a signature thing. Anyway, the Chandler Quad came apart into two flight cases and, a couple of years ago, half of it got stolen. So, he stopped doing the 4-neck act, and his fans were pissed.

Michael is a Dean endorser, and he convinced them to sponsor construction of a new improved Super Quad Guitar. Dean sent the job to us, but they paid for it. Those look like Dean necks, but they are custom made by us. I made the main structures of the necks and all of the special metal parts. Mike Lipe did the shaping and detail work on the necks, built the bodies, and did the final assembly. The finish was done by Scary Graphics and Pat Wilkins.

You may not realize it, but the larger guitar companies will often subcontract out the construction of prototype or endorser instruments to small specialty Luthiers like us. Even when they have their own custom shops, it can be cheaper and faster to have us build the oddball instruments that you see at the NAMM show or out with some rock star. And these days, many of the smaller companies can't afford to keep their own custom shops going. Mike and I have built about a hundred specials for various companies over the last decade.

This one was a fun project, just to stretch the limits. Michael Batio participated in the design of it and came by my shop several times during the construction. An interesting guy, very knowledgeable technically. He fully understands that the 4-neck thing is a stunt for the fans, and would rather play his magic on a single guitar. But, this is show business!

More story and great pictures of Quad here:

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Hey, it may be show biz, but like the gimmick of playing two saxophones at once it's got to be a huge hit with fans! I love it!