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Downsizing from 810. Which 410?

hyp.spec

hyp.spec

May 14, 2006
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Fraser, MI
#1
I'm in the midst of trading my Ampeg 810 for a 410. Looking to downsize for more portability...

That being said I have offers to trade for a GK 410RBH (8ohm), a Ampeg 410HLF (4ohm) or an Eden 410XLT (4ohm)

I'll be running it with a GK 700rb-II

My tone is growly and upfront. When I crank the 810, my tone is from the gods but waaaaaaaaaaay to loud.

Which of these cabs will help me get there at a more reasonable level?
 
#3
When I had my 700RB-II It sounded awesome through my fEARful 12/12/6. Much easier schlep that my old SWR Goliath II 4x10. But I don't think any of those cabs will sound like your 810. All of those cabs will get some love here though. Not sure if the GK cab is bi-ampable. A lot of GK guys like that option.
 
#4
cableguy said:
When I had my 700RB-II It sounded awesome through my fEARful 12/12/6. Much easier schlep that my old SWR Goliath II 4x10. But I don't think any of those cabs will sound like your 810. All of those cabs will get some love here though. Not sure if the GK cab is bi-ampable. A lot of GK guys like that option.
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+1

If you want that Ampeg tone in a smaller package look at the 410he not the HLF.

If you are open to other options, there are IMHO much better ones than any of the cabs you have listed.
 
#5
Floyd Eye said:
I couldn't tell you. None of the 410s I ever played through gave me the tone I get from my Ampeg 810.

Why not just turn it down?
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Part of the sound is pushing the drivers... turning down won't me what I'm going for!

I should also add that we're experimenting with some lower tunings, so I'm thinking a ported 410 may help me get where I need to go with lower notes.

The 810 sounds great but at low tunings all the definition just goes bye-bye!
 
#6
I guess that depends on which 810 you have. My band plays almost exclusively in lower tunings and I have no issues like that.

I know that Ampeg made a 410 that was designed by Victor Wooten that is supposed to be bad ass. I know a guy who uses Ampeg 410s that are identical to the ones Les Claypool uses and they are bad ass, though I couldn't tell you which ones they are.

Anyway, good luck with your search.
 
#8
Reviving a 'dead' thread.

I ended up trading my 810 for a GK 410rbh.

Best decision I've made.

Sorry JimmyM, but for what I do, the 410rbh fits perfectly. By no means is the 810 a bad cab. It's a brutal cab, but the GK gets done what I need and a form factor that lets me take my Ford Focus to gigs.

I may be kicking myself in the arse at some point for trading my 810, but it seems in my area that they are readily available on Craigslist ;)
 
#9
Never played through 810 but I would guess that if you don't get the 410 off the ground, you'll wonder if the amp is even on. I was actually considering adding another 410 just to get a cab up in the air.

Last gig we played was at. Bigger club. I couldn't hear a thing. I know I was heard in the audience but my sound got totally lost on stage with the amp on the ground.
 
#11
msaone said:
Never played through 810 but I would guess that if you don't get the 410 off the ground, you'll wonder if the amp is even on. I was actually considering adding another 410 just to get a cab up in the air.

Last gig we played was at. Bigger club. I couldn't hear a thing. I know I was heard in the audience but my sound got totally lost on stage with the amp on the ground.
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Take a 2x4 (chunk of wood), stick it under your cabinet, and your cab is now titled. I do it every show and it helps tremendously.
 
#13
msaone said:
Thanks, I'll try that. Ever tried building a stand for a 410?
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I have not tried building a stand for a 4x10. The 2x4 trick worked well on my Eden 410XLT and the 2x4 was right off the job site. :D Can you say free?

You could always bring two 410's to shows and just use the top 410 for hearing yourself. If you have the car space to do it though. You would always be able to use both cabs if needed. A more expensive route, but takes the same space up on stage if they are stacked.
 
#16
Gearhead17 said:
I have not tried building a stand for a 4x10. The 2x4 trick worked well on my Eden 410XLT and the 2x4 was right off the job site. :D Can you say free?

You could always bring two 410's to shows and just use the top 410 for hearing yourself. If you have the car space to do it though. You would always be able to use both cabs if needed. A more expensive route, but takes the same space up on stage if they are stacked.
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This is what I got folds up easy to store
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/WS8540
 

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