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Downsizing...need opinions on Ampeg Rocket Bass

KevInDaBassment

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Jul 30, 2010
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To try and keep the gist as succinct as possible, I'm running out of patience trying to sell old gear. What I'm parting with for sure is a Sterling by Musicman Ray34 CA and my Avatar Neo 2x12. Rays just really aren't my cup of tea and the Avatar Neo 2x10 is PLENTY, should the need for a gig arise...so the 2x12 is not needed. Looking at getting a little combo as a trade-in at Guitar Center *shudders*.

I'm wanting a "Hey! Let's jam some [insert song here]!" with buddies at get-togethers amp. We're talking a small guitar combo and maybe a cajon or something I'm jamming with. Not loud enough to deafen the kids or make the spouses angry. It'll probably get more use in the bedroom or living room, so I'd like something with serviceable tone. Going for a nice, rubbery low-end (think 70s hifi lows and not 90s subwoofer lows) with malleable mid and treble range.



I already have some combos in mind, Ampeg Rocket Bass is the front runner, but wanted to get some opinions on the main difference with the 1x10 and 1x12 versions. The 1x12 version is said to have a custom Eminence speaker, while the 1x10 doesn't state that it's by Eminence (even in Ampeg's marketing materials). Anybody notice a substantial difference between the two? I like the demos I've heard, but they're typically the 1x12 being demo'd. The Effects Loop and Ultra Lo/Hi aren't a real big deal to me.

The others I'm looking at are the Peavey Max 1x10 or 1x12 and the Orange Crush Bass 50. I had the older Peavey MaxBass 1x10 and liked it, but it was pretty underpowered. Never owned a SS Orange amp, but the sound demos seemed pretty good. A lot of demo videos now are doing a mix of DI and room mic, kinda makes it hard to get a solid idea of the in-person tone. Yes, I could go try them out at GC, but none of these amps will drown out the idiot on the 100w tube stack wailing the intro from "Ain't Talkin 'bout Love" for 2 hours straight. :rage:


Thoughts on those? I'd like to keep the budget under $450 (assuming GC will give me about $300-350 for the trade-in), so I'd also be open to suggestions on things in that range. Not interested in Fender Rumble combos...owned them before, not my cup of tea. I would go for used, but I'm limited to what GC has on hand if I'm doing trade-in, otherwise I'd be scouring the classifieds on here.
 
please note that the rb110/112 don't have a tweeter, it may be your cup of tea or not. if you're firm on rb, get the 112 and don't think twice. if you dig the sound, of course. the difference in weight is tiny, but a 50W into a 110 is really not a lot, even if you play with acoustic only instruments.

if your jam rig really needs to be very small, consider also a Phil Jones Double Four. bonus points: you can power it from a battery.
 
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I have the 110. I haven't had a chance to A/B it against a 112, but I will say that even the relatively small size impresses me with the volume it's capable of putting out. I rarely take the volume knob above 9:00 when practicing at home. I have used it for jamming with a guitarist using a 15W amp or an acoustic guitar and it absolutely kept pace with that, with headroom to spare.

You might try reaching out to Yamaha customer service with questions about the speaker type - they've been responsive to me pretty promptly in the past, and they'll certainly know what kind of speaker the 110 has in it as the parent company for Ampeg.
 
I can sure you will notice the G string on your Ray34ca sound fuller once you plug into RB112/115/210.

Hey! I saw your Ampeg RB Zoom recordings when doing my initial thread search! It made me feel much more comfortable going with the Ampeg (tone sounded great), what made you decide on the 1x12 instead of the 1x10?


Also...diggin that blue jazz bass, similar color on my jazz and precision bass.
 
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I use the Rumble 25 for pretty much that exact scenario and it’s enough. So size wise, I think the 110 would be plenty.

Ive demoed the RB 110 and 112 side by side and they both sound great. I didn’t find the 110 lacking and I’d be happy with either, they’re sweet amps!
 
I use the Rumble 25 for pretty much that exact scenario and it’s enough. So size wise, I think the 110 would be plenty.

I had a Fender Bronco 40, 40W into 110 and once my friends brought in a fiddle. just a simple acoustic violin, in a small room. and I was completely underpowered and unable to hear myself no matter how soft the violinist tried to play.

I moved to a Rumble 100 and never had this problem again with it. you always appreciate having more volume on tap, when you'll need it. 100W into a 112 is not that big for a bass amp.

this said, I still do own a sub-100W combo, it's a Phil Jones BG-75. it's enough for acoustic jams, but if there's a drum kit, the 'I wish, I had tad more power' arises again.
 
Hey! I saw your Ampeg RB Zoom recordings when doing my initial thread search! It made me feel much more comfortable going with the Ampeg (tone sounded great), what made you decide on the 1x12 instead of the 1x10?


Also...diggin that blue jazz bass, similar color on my jazz and precision bass.

I choice RB112 because the tone and output especially once the volume knob pass noon.
I been own RB115 after I return my first RB112 which has loud hiss issue. RB115 has too much low end and lacking some upper mid thing I prefer on RB112. So , I let go the RB115 then bring second RB112 home.
Compare to RB110, you will notable which one has better tone when try them side by side from distance around 13 feets, and volume knob on both set at 1 o'clock.

Compare to my previous Rumble V3 200/115 , Hartke KB15 and Tech 21 VT200 combo, RB112 has very nice tube-like vibe and heft when I set the SGT grid with 10 o'clock on Grit knob and 2 o'clock on Level knob.
 
I choice RB112 because the tone and output especially once the volume knob pass noon.
I been own RB115 after I return my first RB112 which has loud hiss issue. RB115 has too much low end and lacking some upper mid thing I prefer on RB112. So , I let go the RB115 then bring second RB112 home.
Compare to RB110, you will notable which one has better tone when try them side by side from distance around 13 feets, and volume knob on both set at 1 o'clock.

Compare to my previous Rumble V3 200/115 , Hartke KB15 and Tech 21 VT200 combo, RB112 has very nice tube-like vibe and heft when I set the SGT grid with 10 o'clock on Grit knob and 2 o'clock on Level knob.

Have you compared these to the Portaflex (PF350/500) heads? I'm wondering if getting the portaflex head and a 1x12HE or HLF would be an improvement or not. Since you can mount them on the cabinet itself, seems like it would take up just as much as space as the combo.


EDIT: Nvm...no 1x12HE available, only the 1x12HLF or the 1x15 HE/HLF
 
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Have you compared these to the Portaflex (PF350/500) heads? I'm wondering if getting the portaflex head and a 1x12HE or HLF would be an improvement or not. Since you can mount them on the cabinet itself, seems like it would take up just as much as space as the combo.


EDIT: Nvm...no 1x12HE available, only the 1x12HLF or the 1x15 HE/HLF

I use the RB110 as my at home practice amp and the PF500/115HE as my rehearsal/gig amp. Both have pretty "ampeggy" sounds though the PF500 is significantly more flexible, as it has an onboard compressor (which I have on all the time at around 10:00 on the knob), variable mid frequency selector (I keep mine on 2, or 450 Hz) and the classic Ampeg "Ultra Lo" and "Ultra Hi" buttons (I never use these myself). I know that larger models of the Rocketbass combos include the Ultra Hi and Ultra Lo switches, and the Rocketbass does have the SGT circuit, which the PF heads lack, though I use a Sansamp and a Big Muff for my dirt when playing with the band anyway so I don't really miss it.

As far as 500W heads go the PF500 is pretty affordable and sounds exactly how I want it to. I know it's not quite as full featured as some other TB favorites like the Mesa Boogie subway amps, but I'm a fan of the Ampeg sound so it suits my needs just perfectly.