E to B tune

[Bass Baron]

I'm using 5 string with E - C tuning but i've been thinking of doing the same thing as Janek Gwizdala use drop tuner on E string to drop it to B so i can have a B when i need. What kind of tuner i need for the E? Should i use normal 5 string stringset?

 

[walterw]

E strings are not B strings! you're talking 100-105 vs 125-130.

you could of course try tuning your E down to a loose, floppy, buzzy B, but it won't have anywhere near as good a sound as an actual B string.

 

[Bass Baron]

So i should tune my B string to E and so on?

 

[Jeff Elkins]

Your intonation or buzziness/floppyness might depend on your string and instrument, but according to hipshot, your first guess is the correct one:

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Fodera uses Gotoh tuners on Janek's sig model, but this is how I'm reading it for either tuner.

 

[Bass Baron]

Your intonation or buzziness/floppyness might depend on your string and instrument, but according to hipshot, your first guess is the correct one:

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Fodera uses Gotoh tuners on Janek's sig model, but this is how I'm reading it for either tuner.

So i should use normal E string to drop to B? You know wich model fits my MTD kingston Z5?

 

[darrenmt]

I'm using 5 string with E - C tuning but i've been thinking of doing the same thing as Janek Gwizdala use drop tuner on E string to drop it to B so i can have a B when i need. What kind of tuner i need for the E? Should i use normal 5 string stringset?

Sounds like you need another 5string tuned BEADG or a 6string.

 

[Turxile]

The drop-D tuner.. Drops the E to a D, not B.

 

[mr.black]

The drop-D tuner.. Drops the E to a D, not B.

NOT true turxile... i use a gotohGB7 style hipshot and go from D# to A on one bass on another i do reg % drop from D# to C#. both are accurate with a flip of the lever and can def capable of further drop (if you dont mind said "floppiness")

 

[Bass Baron]

NOT true turxile... i use a gotohGB7 style hipshot and go from D# to A on one bass on another i do reg % drop from D# to C#. both are accurate with a flip of the lever and can def capable of further drop (if you dont mind said "floppiness")

Yeah i sent hipshot an email about this and they replied that i should use GB7 for this

 

[mr.black]

Yeah i sent hipshot an email about this and they replied that i should use GB7 for this

hey BASS BARON, I will see Janek over the weekend, i'll take a look at his bass set up and ask him about his string gauges, tunings etc and i'll get back to you next week sometime.

 

[srayb]

E strings are not B strings! you're talking 100-105 vs 125-130.

you could of course try tuning your E down to a loose, floppy, buzzy B, but it won't have anywhere near as good a sound as an actual B string.

I would suggest using a slightly heavier gauge - maybe a .110 - this would not cause too much extra tension when you are tuned to E while at the same time add a bit better resonance when dropping down to B. It will always be a compromise between the extremes when you drop a string that much. Michael Manring does a lot of big drop tunings and he makes it work!

 

[Jensby design]

Sounds like some of the crazy tunings I use on my 3-string bass DAE, EAD, DGG, and CFF all with the same set of strings.
Gauges .125 .80 .50 scale length 31.181"

 

[Bass Baron]

hey BASS BARON, I will see Janek over the weekend, i'll take a look at his bass set up and ask him about his string gauges, tunings etc and i'll get back to you next week sometime.

Nice ! Thanks! I would appreciate that!

 

[mr.black]

ok Baron heres the deal. he's indeed using a standard .105 gauge string (though i forgot to ask the brand) and he said "yes its floppy/loose when he drops to "B" using the gotoh style tuner" actually took a look at his set up holding the first fret and around the 14th fret on the "E" string to check his relief and I would say its where most people would say is on the high side for action... he says he just lightens up his touch when playing dropped. i think he thought i was a little crazy asking all these questions and grabbing his bass but he was nice about it.

I'll sum up his success doing this with 2 things... 1. his technique (it's 99% how he manages to get by doing this) and 2. that bad ass single cut fodera!! its beautifully built and rock solid stable! that prob helps a lot.

 

[rude_basstard]

I would suggest using a slightly heavier gauge - maybe a .110 - this would not cause too much extra tension when you are tuned to E while at the same time add a bit better resonance when dropping down to B. It will always be a compromise between the extremes when you drop a string that much. Michael Manring does a lot of big drop tunings and he makes it work!

I would imagine that without an incredibly rigid neck, this would result in a drastic change in tension, knocking the other strings out of tune.

 

[Bass Baron]

ok Baron heres the deal. he's indeed using a standard .105 gauge string (though i forgot to ask the brand) and he said "yes its floppy/loose when he drops to "B" using the gotoh style tuner" actually took a look at his set up holding the first fret and around the 14th fret on the "E" string to check his relief and I would say its where most people would say is on the high side for action... he says he just lightens up his touch when playing dropped. i think he thought i was a little crazy asking all these questions and grabbing his bass but he was nice about it.

I'll sum up his success doing this with 2 things... 1. his technique (it's 99% how he manages to get by doing this) and 2. that bad ass single cut fodera!! its beautifully built and rock solid stable! that prob helps a lot.

Ok thanks alot! This helped a lot! I'm thinking if i'm going to try this but i'm pretty sure that i'm going to survive with out the low B. But thank you so much this really helped!