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EBMM Stingray - Good Buy?
- Thread starter redlizard
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On another forum a wise man in a similar situation said, "hobbies are an investment in yourself." I loved that philosophy; never heard from the guy again though, so maybe his wife didn't agree.
I always wonder if the Wives are asking these same questions on other forums about multi thousand $ bags and shoes.
Suggestion... Consider building personal spending money into your home budget.
Every week, we get a credit of personal money for hobbies or personal impulse purchases. I track ours with a pair of phantom accounts in Quicken, you can easily do it with a 3x5 notebook or a ledger pad. You "pay" (credit) yourselves on a schedule you determine, and deduct what you spend, regardless of it being cash, card, check, whatever... Your balance is your balance, no approval is needed from the other, regardless of how silly or unnecessary the other person might consider the purchase.
30 years, zero money fights... The amounts have changed, the process has been fantastic.
Using the OP's example, he would pay for the bass, deduct the cost from his "account", even if it goes negative. Upon selling another item, the proceeds go back into the family bank account, and his spending account is credited.
Of course, if laying out for a hobby item will create a problem meeting household expenses, well...
Every week, we get a credit of personal money for hobbies or personal impulse purchases. I track ours with a pair of phantom accounts in Quicken, you can easily do it with a 3x5 notebook or a ledger pad. You "pay" (credit) yourselves on a schedule you determine, and deduct what you spend, regardless of it being cash, card, check, whatever... Your balance is your balance, no approval is needed from the other, regardless of how silly or unnecessary the other person might consider the purchase.
30 years, zero money fights... The amounts have changed, the process has been fantastic.
Using the OP's example, he would pay for the bass, deduct the cost from his "account", even if it goes negative. Upon selling another item, the proceeds go back into the family bank account, and his spending account is credited.
Of course, if laying out for a hobby item will create a problem meeting household expenses, well...
I was saving up for a teal stingray but ended up buying a new clear blue ASAT back in the late 90's. Such a great finish.
Seems like a good deal. I have one of those rare trans colors - trans teal - seen in my avatar. My bass is from 1999. The serial E13xxx on that bass you are looking at puts it in 2000s territory. Great basses then as now. I think the price is fair. Check jack and knobs for scratchiness. Good luck. Personally, I love the trans colors from EBMM. They are very well done.
Update - taking a look at it late afternoon.
The wife problem isn't about money, it's a philosophical difference. She hates rock and electrified instruments. Thinks pianos, classical music and playing off sheet music defines musicianship. Also thinks one guitar and one amp is all anyone should ever need. I've taken to playing through headphones to avoid hearing about it. I used to have all day every workday home alone to blast, now she rarely leaves the house. Thanks Covid.
The wife problem isn't about money, it's a philosophical difference. She hates rock and electrified instruments. Thinks pianos, classical music and playing off sheet music defines musicianship. Also thinks one guitar and one amp is all anyone should ever need. I've taken to playing through headphones to avoid hearing about it. I used to have all day every workday home alone to blast, now she rarely leaves the house. Thanks Covid.
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Agreed, tort would look sharp. Black would also be an improvement. I feel like the white is too contrasting and distracts from the darker hues, the fretboard especially.
- Dec 5, 2002
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Eff it, over the last month or so I've bought a Stingray guitar (yes, a guitar) and two Albert Lee guitars, too.
Of course, I'm divorced so who's going to stop me?
Of course, I'm divorced so who's going to stop me?
- Dec 5, 2002
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- Endorsing Artist: Ernie Ball Music Man/Sterling By Music Man
Stingrays went used around here for about $950 for years and years. I bought and sold one myself. Couple years ago EBMM raised the price on new ones substantially and the used market followed. Most I see in good shape now list for $1200 plus or minus. Hard to tell what they sell for.
$950 is a solid deal right now. MD above is right though; you'll have to weigh the family situation.
$950 is a solid deal right now. MD above is right though; you'll have to weigh the family situation.
Ah, marital bliss. I would have to count myself fortunate in that my wife is glad I spend time and money on music gear, practicing, recording, gigging, etc. She's happy to see me "get out of the house" (even if nowadays it's a strictly mental journey) and for me to have a hobby so I'm not always talking her ear off. It ends up being healthy for both. We have been married for twenty-three years.
It also helps that I have a music budget that carries over from the previous month and onward to the following month, so that whatever purchases I make of gear are solely up to me. Many fewer arguments that way. Budgeting effectively as a couple has made life so much better. All of the money I spend on music gear is pre-allocated. If I need more, I let my wife know about it so we can divert funds from some other category.
Some couples may think they are disagreeing about money when it reality they are each struggling to control the other.
My wife and I don't end up having conversations like: "Honey, can I get the new Fender American Pro II Jazz Bass?" "Don't you have enough basses?" because I can make those determinations 100% independently of her.
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I like the figurines on the shelf behind the guitars. About ten years ago I was in New Orleans around Christmas and was offered tickets to the holiday home tour in the Garden District. Turns out one of the homes belonged to Trent Reznor. He had a display case filled with similar things, it was very cool but also slightly unnerving.
I also like the guitars, though I'd have no idea what to do with one.
IMO, that's a nice price. Out of curiosity, what translucent color is it?
Here's my '01 EBMM, which has a "Loud" translucent color:
I recently looked at prices on new EBMM basses, and I was surprised at how much they've increased over the years.
See, theres your problem right there. You married someone that knows about music. Now, my wife doesnt. When I get a new bass, they just "show up". If asked, I tell her "ive had that for a while" and change the subject. The only one I had any discussion with her about was my Wal...because it was very expensive. Couldnt hide that!
My late '80's MusicMan Sabre and Ray both appraised for about 4X what I paid new. Granted that's older than the one you are looking at. And I don't think of investment value for guitars. But compared to many brands an aging Ray will be worth as much when you sell it as when you buy it.
Plus, you might need to reevaluate your relationship. If you are in fear of being murdered for buying a bass that might indicate the need for counseling. I just showed my wife a bass I was looking at (on the Fender Mod Shop page) and simply asked her which color she thought looked better. Guess what, she said she liked the tort guard and the next day she asked if I ordered it. Jealous?
Also, if you buy it and it's in good shape and you need to sell it to save your life send pics and post it in the TB classifieds (must be a supporter) or DM me.
And and and...
EBMM 3EQ is going to change your world. Don't know what you are playing today but it's not as good as what you are going to get.
Plus, you might need to reevaluate your relationship. If you are in fear of being murdered for buying a bass that might indicate the need for counseling. I just showed my wife a bass I was looking at (on the Fender Mod Shop page) and simply asked her which color she thought looked better. Guess what, she said she liked the tort guard and the next day she asked if I ordered it. Jealous?
Also, if you buy it and it's in good shape and you need to sell it to save your life send pics and post it in the TB classifieds (must be a supporter) or DM me.
And and and...
EBMM 3EQ is going to change your world. Don't know what you are playing today but it's not as good as what you are going to get.
