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EHX Q-Tron vs MXR Envelope Filter for WHEEEEE (non-Filter nerd) guy

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FilterFunk said:
Do you mean the Pigtronix Resotron?
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yeah...Pigtronix. Senior moment because the box is nothing like a Way Huge.
I recently rediscovered it stored in it's lovely box, and finally figured out how to use it. It does some stuff I still don't know what it is.
Same unearthing of unused things also dug up an FMaron by Iron Ether and that went right into use.
 
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Thanks for the info so far :)

Sounds like neither pedal would really give me much joy. I'm unlikely to deep dive with the envelope filter so if the MXR is fiddly that's gonna piss me off and not make me go "WHEEEEE"

The QTron sounds a bit unreliable in the effect that it makes. While I think envelope filters should probably be a little unpredictable, volume spikes aren't a thing I am keen on. MIND YOU. I'll be running it into a Compressor (Markbass Compressore) so that might be able to mitigate that to an extent?

Source Audio stuff I hate. I've had a bunch of their stuff and it's just never worked for me. Some reviews have said it's decent, but only good if you dive in to the app and absolutely shaging not.

So I'm leaning towards the EBS BassIQ?

And I've also found a Aguilar Filter Twin used for the same price as a new MXR Envelope Filter?
 
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The MXR en. filter is the best/most successful pedal of its kind for me at gigs. The control over wet and dry is crazy helpful. When I cant hear the pedal well, I can play too hard. With a filter, it doesn't play the way I want it too if its not boosted and then I struggle to hear it. With the wet and dry controls, you can can boost the dry signal live a boost pedal and play more sensitively and get the envelope to play how you want at gig volume. Never getting rid of it.
 
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I have some of those pedals.

I have had the Aguilar on my bass board for about a year, replacing the EBS.

I like the Solid Gold for guitar, not least for that hold thing.

But I have many - Rocktron makes a interesting couple (the old red, the current silver), among the usual suspects, of which even the Behringer is fun (actually, more than, it's a musically usable attempt at the Moog). Don't overlook the little One Control autowah thing if size ...

I confess that other than a modded Bassballs and the Enigma, I don't care for the EHX or MXR versions as I hate "quack" being anything more than a minimal sound from dynamics.

My absolute fave - and this is before the AI/programmable/bluetooth/USB/download-update whatever poopie, is the huge, old, purple Source Audio BEF (Pro?). But it do take some time to set it up ...
 
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My gripe with Q-Tron (the three knob smaller one, don't know about the big ones) is that the speed of the filter can't be changed. It is a good pedal, can make good sounds, and can be had fairly inexpensively.

However, for not much more you can get and MXR, Aguilar, or EBS. These offer much more tunablility.
 
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mr80htz said:
The MXR en. filter is the best/most successful pedal of its kind for me at gigs. The control over wet and dry is crazy helpful. When I cant hear the pedal well, I can play too hard. With a filter, it doesn't play the way I want it too if its not boosted and then I struggle to hear it. With the wet and dry controls, you can can boost the dry signal live a boost pedal and play more sensitively and get the envelope to play how you want at gig volume. Never getting rid of it.
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I share the same sentiment.
 
#31
GrayGoesBlack said:
I love envelope filters, and my favorite at the moment is the Past FX PX-101: PX-101 LOWPASS FILTER
It's a great clone of the Moog MF-101, but smaller and doesn't need a special psu. It really sounds the same as the Moog one, I've compared them side by side (because I also have the Moog, because I love envelope filters).
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Looks perfect I want one, but it's $329 and shipping wasn't mentioned yet... you can get the EH used for $70 and it ISN't UNRELIABLE, it's actually very reliable. It distorts IF you set it that way, with high volume and low cutoff freq, you have choices. people making pronouncements based on no direct experience these days, it's never happened before.
 
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To me it sounds like this is a perfect case for some version of the DOD FX25. (I like the 25B with the blend knob personally.) Very simple to operate. Sounds good/crazy. Inexpensive. And if you're not trying to actually integrate it into your "real" playing, none of the drawbacks matter (peaky volume, low end loss). Don't know what availability is like in Australia though.
 
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Are there any music shops nearby? Most readily available pedals will give you an excellent idea of what you'll be getting. Short of that I think you've choose a couple of solid, inexpensive options to audition. I haven't played that EHX version (the small Bass Balls is awesome for what it does) but the MXR sounded good and was very intuitive. The newer Zoom MS-70+ has some really good filter sounds as well as loads of stuff you may not need/want. But it's super cheap. You definitely don't need to spend $200+ to get an idea of what works for you or for an excellent sounding filter pedal.
 
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I think for the money, you can't go wrong either way between the Nano Q Tron and the MXR. I gig the MXR, but I always keep a Q Tron around because it's a little wilder. They're both extremely easy to dial in and have a broad range of tones. There's plenty of great boutique and digital options, but after chasing those for a while, I ended up with these two in the arsenal.
 

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