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Enough with the Auto-Tune already!
- Thread starter Benjamin Strange
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- Dec 25, 2002
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The dirty feeling I got imagining Bard doing a sexy dance in a skimpy outfit while lip synching won't wash off. I even tried Lava soap.
That one may require the steel bristle brush to get rid of. Brrrrrr. Makes me want to poke out my minds eye.
Umm...what? You know, I'm not QUITE sure, but I don't think anyone is condemming the use of an EQ. There's a difference between boosting the lows and making every note on pitch. Also, I'm very, very curious how one might correct their pitch with a preamp? You must be using one hell of a piece of machinery, 'cause my amps sure as heck don't have this function.Coutts_is_god said:
I'm reviving this thread because we've been discussing auto-tune in one of my classes this semester. It's friggin WEAK. Discuss.
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Actually, the Antares plug-in doesn't "auto-tune" by itself . . . it has to be adjusted (in real time) to get decent sounding, "transparent" automatic tuning of vocals . . . but it's NOT the "state of the art" as far as plug-ins for vocal "pitch correction" is concerned, not in 2008.
The Melodyne plug-in has been popular for several years, and it's what I have been using for more than a year. It also requires A LOT of editing (within the plug-in) to realize the maximum transparency with even smallish pitch "corrections".
IMO the operator/engineer MUST be trained as a musician AND producer . . .
The Melodyne plug-in has been popular for several years, and it's what I have been using for more than a year. It also requires A LOT of editing (within the plug-in) to realize the maximum transparency with even smallish pitch "corrections".
IMO the operator/engineer MUST be trained as a musician AND producer . . .
I was revisiting this old thread because I'd wondered if there had ever been a discussion about auto-tune abuse (let's face it, things have only gotten worse)...and came upon this particular post with a link to an informative article about Cher's use of a vocoder....except, something NEW has been added to the article.
First, I'm shocked that the article is still around.
But I'm even more shocked that someone actually went back and set the record straight.
For Christmas this year, I'm sending my singer out to have his vocal cords plekked.....
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Just goes to show you, if they make a pill for it, it's usually not the remedy more than it is just a "miracle pill", just the same with such processors.
If I "can't" do something, there's probably a good reason why not.
If I "can't" do something, there's probably a good reason why not.
LOL!I think Ashley Simpson uses one.
All you need is some T & A, nice teeth, and one of these and you're golden. Look at Brittany Spears.
I guess every decade has it's gimics. The 80's were all about the Yamaha DX7 and the Roland Jupiter 8.
If you use an autotuner.. Im going to walk out, cause all i can hear in my head is freaking T pain...
I've recorded many many albums. Auto Tune isn't the only thing fooling everybody. There's a program called Beat Detective that fixes bad drumming, there's a program that will tune a single string that's a bit off in a guitar chord (or change it from major to minor or whatever). Vocal parts, guitar parts... almost everything is edited together from multiple takes and punch-ins.
Recordings haven't been an accurate representation of a live performance ever since the first day someone figured out you could fix a mistake.
I hate the overuse of Auto Tune too. I'm not defending it. I'm just saying that the whole process has become getting the "perfect" performance and Auto Tune is just one more tool to do that. The human voice is so full of nuance that it's harder to hide when it's manipulated.
Recordings haven't been an accurate representation of a live performance ever since the first day someone figured out you could fix a mistake.
I hate the overuse of Auto Tune too. I'm not defending it. I'm just saying that the whole process has become getting the "perfect" performance and Auto Tune is just one more tool to do that. The human voice is so full of nuance that it's harder to hide when it's manipulated.
I believe this needs an honourable mention here:
Plus it'll give you an idea of what auto tune sounds like...
Plus it'll give you an idea of what auto tune sounds like...
beat detective, autotune and melodyne are raping music as we know it. the underground resurgence of REAL musicians is coming. there will be a backlash.
Hey, now, where would Britney Spears and T-Pain be, if auto-tune didn't exist? We'd be deprived of their "excellent" skills...Just kidding of course.
She would be where she has always belonged............asking "do you want fries with that?" (and even then, she would ask that question out of tune).
I can agree with you on this, as my roommate is sitting at the house editing the vocals on a band's record. This is all after recording the guitars direct in, and miced up. Sound replacing the drums, and running the bass direct in. Everything was run through plugins, punched in multiple times, overdubbed, and made to sound as full as possible.
Welcome to the world of pop music everyone. His records sound great, and most of the bands he records will never sound any better than he makes them sound.
