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Double Bass Essential Jazz Recordings

#2
Hello James,
What Jazz Bass recordings?..whoo...thats a big question. Theres a bunch to say the least. Everyone has their Fav Jazz Bass player and recording. You`ll find a load of info in this forum and the Bassist forum. My Fav along with many more here is Ray Brown but that is just one of many. As far as learning Jazz I myself have learned alot from and continue to do so from the Jamey Aebersold Books. They are a great way to help you "hear" chords. They are many to choose from, I would suggest reading suggestions on the site as to where to start. Invalid Link Removed Good Luck and again you will learn alot from reading the Newbie links at the top of each forum.

Dave
 
#3
Hey James: it's Double Bass. (forget electric vs acoustic)

So far, the best thing I've seen for a historical perspective on DB in jazz is a book by John Goldsby (link here) with lotsa references to recordings such as those you're looking for. In the same vein, Todd Coolman's "The Jazz Bass Tradition" might be good too, but I have not seen it (yet). How's the CD collection at your local public library ?
 
#4
Originally posted by James Tippets
and was wondering what are the essential Cd's to get for jazz with acoustic in it?
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Well - this is a very long list! I have the Penguin Guide to Jazz on CD - which has thousands of recordings.

They do have some favourites though and they reckon the record that defined modern Jazz was :

Miles Davis - Live at the Plugged Nickel

Which is quiet extraordinary from the point of view of an approach to imrovisation.

I would say - essential Jazz records - is going to include a lot of Miles Davis - with Ron Carter and Paul Chambers, who also played with John Coltrane and he's going to figure in any such list as well.

It would also have to have quite a few Charles Mingus recordings. And you must have some Ray Brown - but he is on hundreds of essential Jazz albums!!

I got a great recommendation from Jon - Pacman - which allowed you to compare two greats of the Double Bass side by side - with only Oscar Peterson and no drums to get in the way - Ray Brown and NHOP.

But really - to chronicle essential Jazz recordings with DB - you need a book, several thousand pages long - not a brief few words here!! ;)
 
#8
You can learn a lot of DB playing from probably any album with any of these playing on it:

Paul Chambers
Ron Carter
Scott Lafaro
Ray Brown
Oscar Pettiford
Jimmy Blanton

Those bassits are known for consistant ability to swing a band and you wont find many bad records they play on..

good luck,
/lovebown
 
#9
All fine suggestions, but except for Ron Carter and NHOP they're no longer living. My list of "essentials" also includes:

Dave Holland, Not For Nothing or Conference of the Birds on ECM

Stanley Clarke, Chick Corea's Light as a Feather on Polydor

Michael Moore, with Bill Charlap, Duos (1995) on Concord or with Bob Brookmeyer, Small Band a/k/a Live at Sandy's on Heritage Jazz

Stafford James, Dexter Gordon's Homecoming on Columbia or Woody Shaw's Live Volume Two

Scott Colley, Chris Potter's Grattitude

Jazz lives, folks. Essential music is still in the air.
 
#10
Hey Bruce and Pac, I've got that Oscar Peterson Meets The Bassists album, and I would agree that it's a great album for a beginner (or anyone really). One aspect of this album that is very interesting, is that when Ray's pickup or amp craps out, he borrows Neils-Hennings bass for part of a song, BUT HE STILL SOUNDS LIKE RAY! Surely the best recorded example I've ever come across for the old "the sound is in your hands" argument.
 
#11
Originally posted by Sam Sherry

Jazz lives, folks. Essential music is still in the air.
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Oh yes - I really like going to see Jazz live - so my local Jazz club has great bands every Friday night and I am always amazed at how good the DB players are each week.

Recordings are one thing and if somebody asks for the "Classics" then it is probably going to include some deceased artists - but I have a large number of CDs that I have bought 'at the gig' direct from the artists, as I loved the music so much!

But there is no point in me listing those, as you won't be able to buy most of them and won't have heard of the names - except for a few, like maybe Dave Green and Chris Laurence?


So tonight I have no doubt I will see some great original Jazz, played by a fairly young band :

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Tom Arthurs’ Centripede Fri 21st November • 8pm • £8/7


Heard here in May in a striking debut performance, Tom is an accomplished young composer whose music is brimful of new ideas and influences. He studied with Dave Douglas and Joe Lovano, and worked with Kenny Wheeler, Norma Winstone and many others; he’s a member of the F-IRE collective which encourages new approaches to improvised music. His band all appear on the debut Centripede CD on Babel Records; Ingrid has appeared in Brighton alongside Monica Vasconcelos in Nois and As Meninas, and with her own quartet which has two CDs available from Candid. Jez has a CD due from his group Second Nature on FMR; Max has written film scores for Gas Attack and BAFTA-winner Last Resort. Tim is best known for Hungry Ants, with whom he’s recorded three albums; he’s also performed with Iain Ballamy, Perfect Houseplants, Julian Argüelles and Stan Sulzmann.

Tom Arthurs
trumpet & flugel

Ingrid Laubrock
saxophones

Jez Franks guitar

Max de Wardener
double bass

Tim Giles drums
 
#13
Originally posted by Marty Forrer
Hey Bruce and Pac, I've got that Oscar Peterson Meets The Bassists album, and I would agree that it's a great album for a beginner (or anyone really). One aspect of this album that is very interesting, is that when Ray's pickup or amp craps out, he borrows Neils-Hennings bass for part of a song, BUT HE STILL SOUNDS LIKE RAY! Surely the best recorded example I've ever come across for the old "the sound is in your hands" argument.
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Well, I just got this record and I had to take it off the cd player after three tunes because I found it rather annoying. NHOP's doing a bunch o' funky licks with a very electric sound, indeed Ray's amp or speaker is saturating badly. There's a lot of hype in the air as everyone is trying to outplay the others. Ray is rushing, OP keeps tapping his foot to push up the tempo... It's spectacular and the public is obviously having a good time during that '77 Montreux Fest concert. But the musicians don't feel at ease and in retrospect this is not particularly great music. I do admire those three great masters, but not in this type of circus setting.

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Happy thanks giving y'all ! :)
 
#14
I cant even pretend to be qualified to answer this question really, but some of the albums I've picked up since I started listening to jazz that have really grabbed me, more for the music as a whole than just the bass, but, well, anyway...

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Miles Davis Quintet - Miles Smiles
Charles Mingus - Ah Um
Charles Mingus - Mingus Dynasty
Oscar Peterson Trio - Night Train

...and I just bought Bill Evans Trio - Portrait In Jazz with Scott LeFaro on bass (on recommendation from Paul W on TB) and the bass is just mind blowing.

Aebersold CDs are good - I have a couple myself... there's a lot to learn! :)
 
#20
Lovebown said:
Uh....any serious jazz collection?
/lovebown
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I think James' initial question had to do with essential listening that includes listening to the "acoustic bass"
I would hardly include " A Love Supreme"
I think your first list of "essential DB players" is pretty much right on....Then you stepped on your sanity by including A Love Supreme......What happened?
 

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