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First and last time I look at a Pawn Shop amplifier.

These days I don't have much money since I am still recovering from a back surgery and having to go in for a second one. So I was looking through the local Craigslist to see if I could find a used bass effects processor that's not made anymore. I came across a Markbass CMD 151P combo amp for sale at a local pawn shop that looked good in the picture, so I decided to call them and see if they would be interested in trading a couple of upland bird shotguns for it. They said yes and I had a feeling they would since the amp was posted awhile ago and guns are getting bought up fast these days at pawn shops. So I asked them what condition it was in and they said it was in mint condition.

So I took the ride down there to try it out after they said it sounded fine when they tried it out before purchasing it off the customer. So I plugged in to it and got an instant loud hum that no knob turning would fix, then a bunch of crackling which wasn't the cord or the jack to the bass. Then the jack to plug it in to a cabinet speaker was not even working. The amp also looked like it was gigged during an early 80's LA punk rock show and then used as a table at a college fraternity house. So it was far from excellent condition and more like a "could catch fire" condition.

I always stayed away from buying stuff from pawn shops because it's usually junk that doesn't work right that people sold because nobody would buy it off them lol. Or it's something stolen these days. I am a Gunsmith and left a local firearms forum because the members would always talk about how they had something that didn't cycle right and they sold it to some local gun shop to become someone else's problem. That's pretty scummy to do. If I ever buy a used firearm then it's from the one shop I trust that actually has a test area in back where they shoot them first and then break them down to check them out before they say yes to buying them and putting them on their shelf. Fixing them is always a cheap thing to do for me but to do that to others is kind of wrong. So I decided to pick up a 25w Fender Rumble in the morning, put a Markbass CMD 121P combo amp on layaway and sell the shotguns locally to pay for the Markbass combo. I should have known better than to waste my time dealing with a pawn shop.

At least I have a friend at the local GC and the Luthier's there are good people. So if I do decide to get something used and sent to the store, they would gladly take it apart and inspect it before I paid for it. I got my first bass recently that way and they looked it over, did a truss rod adjustment and then set up the string height to where I liked it before I walked out with it. The bass was in mint condition and had no fret buzz. I am stoked!!!!
 
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That's a shame and a darn waste of your time.
I s'pose it's like anything. ...there are good and bad ones. And, sadly- as in many things- the bad few spoil it for the rest.
Good choice with that li'l Rumble 25w If it's one of the silver grille cloth "V3" models. ... they're great amps. ..:- the whole series/line is darn good- especially for the price!

I had a Mark Bass LMII a few years ago. ..great amp too. I used to run a Tech 21 VTBASS pedal in front of it. ...gave me a bitta old school Ampeg vibe. .. or I could simply switch it off and, although I mainly left the LMII's 4 band EQ mostly flat (12 o'clock) that VLE filter at about 11 o'clock and the VPF filter at 7 or 8 o'clock. .. Lovely stuff!
 
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Yeah we used to buy snowboards and mountain bikes from the local pawn shops when I lived in Boulder Colorado back in the early 90's. They were always in great condition and used for a year by some college kid who pawned it before heading back home after graduating. I used to look at the guitars in those shops and they all had major neck warp to them from the college kids never using a stand and leaning it against everything lol. I then decided to never ever buy an instrument from a pawn shop lol. I should have stuck by my decision. The Rumble I am going to pick up tomorrow is the 25w Fender gray front with the controls in the top back of the amp. I wish I took a bass off the wall of GC 5 weeks earlier because I just spent $3,500.00 on a new guitar, some pickups, a new amp for the guitar, more effects pedals and more Luthier's tools. I really didn't need another guitar but I really liked it so I had to get it. I could have bought a Markbass cab, head, a bass wah pedal and still have money saved. That was the last of my spending money from some stuff I sold. The shotguns are the last thing I don't care about selling to get some gear. Go figure lmao. On a good note, I got a bass!!!!
 
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Agreed. The idea that one bad experience at one place equals write off all similar businesses is foreign to me. Particularly because unlike the OP I've found loads of ridiculous deals at pawnshops.
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We do have two pawn shops here that are actually good but one is really expensive (probably because their stuff works) and the other one is a strictly music pawn shop that also sells new stuff. They even have weekly sales but they carry a lot of big touring gear and not much in the small department for amps. They also have a lot of studio stuff. You must have a lot of good pawn shops around you. You're lucky because the pawn shops around here in Houston are all selling mostly junk lol. I forgot about going to all the shops here when I first came to Houston. I went pawn shop hopping looking for big Penn reels for my shark fishing set ups and all the reels were broken and they were asking way too much money for them. I have friends who would always drag me in to one looking for records and odd stuff and most of the stuff was either screwed up looking or didn't work right lol. Most of the stuff was probably not sold to them and just put on a loan for money since nobody would buy it. Gotta hand it to the customer because they got money and got rid of it lol. Have a great night.
 
If you intend on purchasing anything in a pawn shop, you have to know the value of what you're purchasing, and understand the pawn shop owner likely knows very little about what they are selling.
Exactly. I went in there knowing everything about Penn reels since I have been fishing all my life. They were asking brand new prices for them and had one marked as a tuna reel lmao. I used to belong to the Texas Shark Fishing Forum where we would get together, yak out a line with bait on it, reel in sharks from the beach, sometimes tag them and then release them. The group was on Shark Week for the 14' Tiger Shark they brought in. But with my back all screwed up now, I sold all my reels for half the price to the group members and called it quits. Some prices for instruments look too good to be true. Then you take a look at it and realize that it needs a new neck and has other issues lol. Have a great night.
 
Agreed. The idea that one bad experience at one place equals write off all similar businesses is foreign to me. Particularly because unlike the OP I've found loads of ridiculous deals at pawnshops.
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^^^ This. When did buyer beware get forgotten here? The Mesa 400 I play through was a fantastic score at a pawn shop. I've found drastically far more deals at them than lemons.

My last lemons were a pair of MAudio 8" studio monitors; one of which had a crackle through the tweeter at higher volumes. Good thing I purchased their 'insurance' for $15 as I was able to take them back and trade for a bass (that I sold) and a laptop that was supposedly damaged (heck - it worked and was only $25!) So my wife stole the laptop from me and I sold the bass to GC and recovered most of my investment back. No real loss there other than some time.

YMMV!

Raz
 
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Pawn shops do seem to have mostly junk.
I have seen way too much stuff priced over new
and/or worn out.

I did once score a Seymour Duncan 400 Bass amp.
It was a case of my not really needing it at all but I
kept seeing it there when I'd drop in every 6 months or so.
after not even asking about it, over maybe a 2 1/2 year period,
I pointed out that it had been there quite a while and the only
things it had done were collecting a lot of dust and taking up space,
followed by 'how bad do you want that out of your way?'
The answer was one Benjamin, out the door for a older, but high quality
400 watt amp.
After I had it a while I learned that it was good for 600 watts at 2 ohms.
Tried that once to see what happened, 4 ohm Acoustic 18 and PV 215 together.
Things fell from shelves, dust was stired up, windows ratteled...
it was glorious! :D

If you come across one, grab it.
There was also an 800 if 400 isn't enough for you. :woot:
 
^^^ This. When did buyer beware get forgotten here? The Mesa 400 I play through was a fantastic score at a pawn shop. I've found drastically far more deals at them than lemons.

My last lemons were a pair of MAudio 8" studio monitors; one of which had a crackle through the tweeter at higher volumes. Good thing I purchased their 'insurance' for $15 as I was able to take them back and trade for a bass (that I sold) and a laptop that was supposedly damaged (heck - it worked and was only $25!) So my wife stole the laptop from me and I sold the bass to GC and recovered most of my investment back. No real loss there other than some time.

YMMV!

Raz


Hmm, did you get that 400 at the shop on W Colonial that's now a Queen of Pawn? I saw one there a couple of years ago for a price that was almost too good to be true...
 
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Hmm, did you get that 400 at the shop on W Colonial that's now a Queen of Pawn? I saw one there a couple of years ago for a price that was almost too good to be true...
I have an acquaintance who runs one on the north side of Jax (I'm in NE FL) and he gave me a killer deal on it; bought a bass from him also. Nice stuff is rare at his shop; he usually turns it away as it's not a good market/area to sell it in. Except when I come visit though!
 
Pawn shops do seem to have mostly junk.
I have seen way too much stuff priced over new
and/or worn out.

I did once score a Seymour Duncan 400 Bass amp.
It was a case of my not really needing it at all but I
kept seeing it there when I'd drop in every 6 months or so.
after not even asking about it, over maybe a 2 1/2 year period,
I pointed out that it had been there quite a while and the only
things it had done were collecting a lot of dust and taking up space,
followed by 'how bad do you want that out of your way?'
The answer was one Benjamin, out the door for a older, but high quality
400 watt amp.
After I had it a while I learned that it was good for 600 watts at 2 ohms.
Tried that once to see what happened, 4 ohm Acoustic 18 and PV 215 together.
Things fell from shelves, dust was stired up, windows ratteled...
it was glorious! :D

If you come across one, grab it.
There was also an 800 if 400 isn't enough for you. :woot:

Thanks Bill Whitehurst. I hear you. Most of the stuff that I have seen in actual working condition or in good condition in a pawn shop was probably not sold to them and put on their money loan program and then couldn't make the payments and lost the item to them. I have a friend now who was telling me about a time where he was going through rough financial times so he gave all his firearms to the pawn shop for a money loan and then he couldn't make the payments half way through and lost them to the store. So the store got all that money and then was able to make a lot more money off selling his mint condition firearms. It happens and probably happened a lot up north in New England when they were going though financial times up there. I was seeing everything for sale for cheap money on their Craigslist city pages.

Hell, they had a bunch of mint condition Bridgeport milling machines on fleaBay for awhile for half price. A huge manufacturing co pony was going belly up and they didn't sell during the auctions so they were selling them all on fleaBay with warranties from the company that refurbished them before they put them up for sale. I was crying that about not being able to afford to snatch one up lol. I sold a 14' ocean kayak with adjustable side pontoons made by a known kayak and canoe company here, with all the trimmings (top of the line life vests, removable adjustable fishing rod holders, kayak anchors, two feather-lite ergo paddles, a custom fishing tackle rod holder rear basket) and the Thule rack system, rear glide pads and front hugger pads with all the ratchet straps to an elderly couple who were both retired from the military. They wanted to get out and exercise in Galveston Bay here in Texas and do some fishing together.

I was in the Marine Corps and they were a nice couple so I gave them half off the kayak with all the gear for free and surprised them by giving them the Thule rack system with the kayak holders all for free. I traded a guitar and effects processor for the kayak from a guy here on Craigslist who was nice enough to let me have it without having to throw in extra cash so I wanted to pay it forward. Plus they were such a great couple and his wife was having medical issues. So I was glad that they could use and enjoy the kayak.They have a Good Karma type section on a Firearm Forum where people who are cleaning out their shops and safes post stuff for free and you just pay shipping which is pretty cool. Stuff like magazines for firearms they no longer have, ammo, parts and range bags. They should put a section like that on here for members. I have posted free handgun grips and a firearm sight paint set that I never used. Made me feel good that I could help someone out and pass along something that I wasn't using.

I will keep an eye out for one of those Setmour Duncan amps. I am a huge Seymour Duncan guitar pickups fan and love the sound I get from their pickups. I just upgraded the pickups in my Dean Lone Star Texas graphics "Dime" Razorback guitar to Setmour Duncan pickups. I always switch out my guitar pickups for Seymour Duncans when I get a new guitar. The guitar has Texas and Firearms on it so being a Gunsmith, living in Texas and being a big Dimebag Darrell fan, I had to buy it lol. The guitar is actually awesome now that I did fret work on it and set it up nice. But I really wish that I didn't just spend thousands of dollars on a new guitar, amp, effects and more luthier tools that I kind didn't really need. Because now that I realized that I love to play bass, I could have used that money to get myself all set up with an amp and some recording gear. Oh well lol. I still love playing the guitar and it's set up that I got for it. Thanks again for the good amp suggestion to keep an eye out for and have a great weekend!
 
OMG I am still kicking myself in the butt for not buying all the Aria basses I seen in the pawn shops outside Camp Lejeune in Jacksonville NC lol. Guitars and basses were a dime a dozen there from people who were selling them after finishing school or got stationed overseas to another base. I picked up a nice Gibson acoustic for $100.00 at one of the shops and couldn't believe how cheap it was. But I took mine home with me when my active duty was up in the Marine Corps. Sold it for a lot more money up north. One of my friends who came to visit and went to one of the shops with me, couldn't believe how cheap the Fender American Strats were selling for. They were averaging $300 cheaper than what they were selling them for used in bad condition up in MA. These were also in mint condition. Now the price of American Strats has sky rocketed along with the Aria basses lol just like all the Fender guitar amps that I used to have that are now all labeled Vintage - Rare and selling for over $1,000.00 lmao. If I had a time machine lol.
 
I think the point I was trying to get across is that to get a decent deal in pawn shop
you need to know what you are looking at and know it will work before even getting interested,
then be prepared to wait, not seem overly interested and be entirely prepared to let it get away.
They will get a lot more reasonable if something has taken up room in the store for years
without any interest.
 
I think the point I was trying to get across is that to get a decent deal in pawn shop
you need to know what you are looking at and know it will work before even getting interested,
then be prepared to wait, not seem overly interested and be entirely prepared to let it get away.
They will get a lot more reasonable if something has taken up room in the store for years
without any interest.

This. Be knowledgeable and leave emotion out of the equation. I find just about every cool piece when I'm not looking for anything in particular.
 
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I think the point I was trying to get across is that to get a decent deal in pawn shop
you need to know what you are looking at and know it will work before even getting interested,
then be prepared to wait, not seem overly interested and be entirely prepared to let it get away.
They will get a lot more reasonable if something has taken up room in the store for years
without any interest.
Yeah so true. But most of them have junk tools in the shops down here. People pawn them and the illegals buy them up to build their businesses. The places are over run with tools, ladders, construction equipment, phones and tablets. But you never see much bass effects which is a bummer!