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Double Bass Flight of the Bumblebee - Lev Weksler

I just saw this on Facebook today... (I have not seen it here on TB doing a search)




"Published on Oct 14, 2015
Flight of the Bumble-Bee by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov. Arranged for two Double Basses and performed by Lev Weksler.
I approached several superb pianists about recording with me the piano part of the Flight of the Bumble-Bee. None of them agreed, perhaps because they didn't feel that a bassist is worthy of accompaniment. I was frustrated at first, but than calmed down, thinking that maybe they feared not being able to do the job in my tempo. Finally, I decided to arrange the piece for two double basses.
Big thanks to the friend of mine Denis Pekine, for filming and editing this video."

Wow.
It's quite a challenge not only playing that, but overdubbing. Incredible work.
 
His videos are super fishy. Everything he posts is heavily edited, sometimes auto-tuned. This one almost sounds like he recorded each note separately and pieced them together on the computer. Has anyone ever seen this guy playing live?

YouTube has a nifty feature where you can slow or speed up the video. Just click the wheel on the bottom right of the screen, select "Speed" and choose 0.5. You'll notice his fingerings don't always match the notes being played.
 
His videos are super fishy. Everything he posts is heavily edited, sometimes auto-tuned. This one almost sounds like he recorded each note separately and pieced them together on the computer. Has anyone ever seen this guy playing live?

YouTube has a nifty feature where you can slow or speed up the video. Just click the wheel on the bottom right of the screen, select "Speed" and choose 0.5. You'll notice his fingerings don't always match the notes being played.

Could that be an issue with youtube?

I do think it's unusual that he is overdubbing and yet I did not notice headphones (for either click or for 1st track). While it's possible to monitor over loud speakers, usually a mic would have to be dynamic and close to the bass to avoid picking those sounds up. I don't see a mic, so I assumed he used a LDC mic that is sensitive and off camera. Maybe the audio was recorded separately and he mimed it for the video? People do that, but usually it's to act/dance in the video and not just play. Anyways, I thought the video was fun to watch.

About the editing, I suspect classical musicians use DAW editing a lot more than we might think. So much of what they aspire too is about "perfection" and and after 70 years of thousands of recordings by the best, it often means resorting to the digital knife and melodyne.
 
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Could that be an issue with youtube?
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About the editing, I suspect classical musicians use DAW editing a lot more than we might think. So much of what they aspire too is about "perfection" and and after 70 years of thousands of recordings by the best, it often means resorting to the digital knife and melodyne.
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Honestly, I'm not convinced he's playing at all. Listen to his Hungarian Dance #5. It's obviously a midi track, and it sounds horrible. I don't understand the point; there's lots of great videos of people actually playing the instrument out there, why is this guy getting any attention?

I've done a number of studio recordings, and of course it's no secret that every studio album is full of edits and various recording tricks. However, I think there's a big difference between splicing in a better take and completely faking it. Maybe it takes me five takes before I can nail down a difficult passage or whatever, but what ends up on the recording is still something I really did manage to play correctly. Normally, it's simply meant to save time in the studio. While it's often possible to get a perfect track down, it could take hours or even days to finally get it. Why bother with that if we can just run through it twice and combine the two takes seamlessly?

On classical albums, we don't use auto-tune and we certainly don't use midi (electronic keyboards notwithstanding).
 
I think Paul is onto something here, the slower pieces in other videos are less fluid than the bumblebee, also. The tuner below the bridge is a cheat as well, I've used a tuner in the studio when I've had to come in on high notes, but not in performance!
Meh, I think the tuner is weird but not necessarily a cheat, especially when you're playing something that fast. The tuner isn't going to pick up every note you play and I certainly wouldn't be able to adjust that quick in tempo.

I do find it odd though that he has the tuner on in every one of his videos. It's just a strange decision to leave it on.
 
This video is making the rounds on Facebook and I'm annoyed that people can't tell that it is fake or heavy edited and manipulated. To my ears, it sounds like he's miming to a midi track rather than a previous recorded performance. At the very least, the audio track is a heavily auto-tuned. It's a shame, because he seems to have outstanding technique.

If you want to watch and hear some virtuoso double bass playing, there are plenty of example that are real, live performances. I submit this video by TalkBass contributor Lauren Pierce as an example:

 
This video is making the rounds on Facebook and I'm annoyed that people can't tell that it is fake or heavy edited and manipulated. To my ears, it sounds like he's miming to a midi track rather than a previous recorded performance. At the very least, the audio track is a heavily auto-tuned. It's a shame, because he seems to have outstanding technique.

If you want to watch and hear some virtuoso double bass playing, there are plenty of example that are real, live performances. I submit this video by TalkBass contributor Lauren Pierce as an example:


Aw thanks Steve! That made my day :)
 
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I just saw this on Facebook today... (I have not seen it here on TB doing a search)




"Published on Oct 14, 2015
Flight of the Bumble-Bee by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov. Arranged for two Double Basses and performed by Lev Weksler.
I approached several superb pianists about recording with me the piano part of the Flight of the Bumble-Bee. None of them agreed, perhaps because they didn't feel that a bassist is worthy of accompaniment. I was frustrated at first, but than calmed down, thinking that maybe they feared not being able to do the job in my tempo. Finally, I decided to arrange the piece for two double basses.
Big thanks to the friend of mine Denis Pekine, for filming and editing this video."

Wow.
It's quite a challenge not only playing that, but overdubbing. Incredible work.


This performance gave me hives...
 
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If you want to watch and hear some virtuoso double bass playing, there are plenty of example that are real, live performances. I submit this video by TalkBass contributor Lauren Pierce as an example:



This is lovely! I really like the combination of nylon string guitar and double bass. The guitar accompanies well without getting in the way and the timbres and acoustic volumes match nicely.
 
And also for anyone who didn't see his response the ClassicalFM article written about him...

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Dear Classic FM, My name is Lev Weksler, and I would like to respond to the article written about me, entitled: Professional double bassists can't work out if that Flight of the Bumblebee video is fake By Daniel Ross, 19th January 2016, 11:01 This is not about making excuses, or the need prove anything to anyone, but I just merely feel the need to defend myself against untrue and unjust accusations. I feel that I owe it to those people [my supporters] who listen to, and appreciate my musical performances. and to those whom I have inspired to once again, take their instrument out of the closet, and start playing once again. My musical playing style and techniques are self taught and obviously different than those who have been taught by traditional methods (not that there’s anything wrong with traditional methods), I just developed my own style through years of playing and performing the music that I love. A few years ago, I was introduced to recording on a computer, as I found out, most everyone else did as well. I then realized that I was behind the times. I quickly discovered that it was a more efficient, faster and convenient than recording onto tape. But I am not a keyboard player and do not use any Synthesizers or MIDI to create my music. I do not use auto-tune. I play everything myself, live into a microphone. Some of my songs require two Bass parts, so I record one track at a time. Yes, I do “Punch in” or re-record some parts that need to be fixed. I then shoot the video to the music that I myself have played and recorded, but I am not trying to fool anyone into thinking, that I am playing live during the video shoot. otherwise I would place headphones on my head and a microphone in front of me for more realism. I am simply accompanying myself for the purpose of the video. I am not doing a “Mimmic” act as some have suggested. I am playing together with my own musical recording…besides, If I had such great Mimmic abilities, I would join the circus instead. Sadly, one of my critics, (with the sole purpose of humiliating me) repeatidly insisted that I post a real live performance of myself. So I will grant him his wish. It is also sad to see that other fellow musicians have concentrated on the technical editing rather than the musical performance itself. I can understand how some people don’t believe that its recorded on a Double Bass because of the unconventional bass sound. Even a friend of mine, by the name of Evgeny Shatsky, who is a Double Bass player with the “Tel-Aviv Symphony Orchestra” couldn’t believe that what he heard was done on a double Bass, until he heard me play it personally. In conclusion, I would like to thank all of my supporters and youtube subscribers that follow me and continue to do so with positive encouragement. I would like to especially thank a great Double Bassist, Lauren Pierce who has open mindedly, supported. In my opinion, she is the future of the Double Bass. It would be an honor for me to share with her, some of my technical abilities that I have developed through out the years.

I found listening to all the videos bizzare... As someone with Perfect Pitch I was amazed that someone could play every single note perfectly in tune for everything. So I decided to put 2 different tuners directly next to my speakers to really see what was going on... Well it was unrealistically in tune, even the greatest musicians in the world have some variants in cents of notes, plus the tambre was wrong...

So I gave something else a try, I loaded up Sibelius 7.5 and started imputing some of the notes he was playing, included glissandos ect. While I can't 100% confirm he is using this program in every video I can say for sure that there is midi being used, he may be using some kind of tone module, or recording parts of it, and the parts that dont sound good he replaces with midi
 
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