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Fly Point Connections for QSC

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I have QSC K10 and K12 tops. I know I can get bolts for the fly point connectors but for the life of me I don't know what size they are. All I want to do is get bolts and washers to attach a couple of my lights to them not to hang them. Can anybody educate me and/or post a link where I can get them?

Many thanks

Chris
 
M10 1.5

20mm max length

It's a metric bolt. M10 is the size, 1.5 is thread pitch. A decent hardware store should have them but probably not home depot type. I got 8 of the 20mm for about $4 and they work perfect for this setup. Same speakers.
 
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If you ever do decide to fly the loudspeakers make sure you use only forged eye bolts with shoulders like this:
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and not wire eye bolts like this:
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Don't you typically have to have an engineer sign off on the setup for insurance reasons?

(I know the OP said he wasn't actually flying the boxes, but this is just part of the ongoing subsequent discussion...)

These days, it's a good idea to have the rigging work, both the parts used and the implementation, signed off on. It's not required, but with each and every single facet of life these days, liability is job 1. Stupid things like an electrical fire 4 rooms away (and I mean a toaster overheating and quickly extinguished a few seconds later by a quick-thinking employees) have led to lawsuits on other work and installations having nothing to do with the incident at hand.

In music venues, halls, and theaters, it's usually up to the house to establish who can rig and who can't. Although I hope they exist, I have yet to run into a place (in the southeast US, of course) where local government codes were in place regarding entertainment rigging. I've been in places to fly a PA where the first question to me by the house tech was "Hi, point us to your rigging and we'll get started". Same with electrical tails. And every once in a while, I'd ask about house riggers and electricians and the answer was "do what?".

To the OP, that sounds like a non-standard use of the rigging points and eyebolts, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I strongly advise caution in putting it together, for all the usual liability reasons. It sounds innocuous enough, but like I said, these days, everything is under a microscope by lawyers and insurance companies.
 
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This is correct. I just did the same thing this past weekend -- fly lights from my RCF Art315a. I bought everything I needed at Ace hardware: M10 threaded rod (looks like a bolt, but with no head on it), M10 nut, and M10 wingnut. For the next gig, I intend to epoxy the nut onto the threaded rod to make it easier to screw it onto the fly point (it's rough on the fingers to grip the threaded nut and tighten it into the fly point).

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This is correct. I just did the same thing this past weekend -- fly lights from my RCF Art315a. I bought everything I needed at Ace hardware: M10 threaded rod (looks like a bolt, but with no head on it), M10 nut, and M10 wingnut. For the next gig, I intend to epoxy the nut onto the threaded rod to make it easier to screw it onto the fly point (it's rough on the fingers to grip the threaded nut and tighten it into the fly point).

It would be easy to double nut it, locking them together. Or possibly put a spot weld on it if you have a mig or tig welder. I'd probably just put a second nut on it myself.
 
Don't you typically have to have an engineer sign off on the setup for insurance reasons?

Any flying of loudspeakers, lights, etc., should be under the supervision of a structural engineer or a rigger with appropriate certification.
 
pic when you do this

We played a political fundraiser tonight. At one time the room was a big furniture store. Each of the four walls is a "patio" to display patio furniture. Went out of business after the housing crash. Wallpaper volume plus there is a big skylight in the roof so it wouldn't be dark so we just set a couple of speakers in the center and added a few lights on sound activation for some visual energy. The one on the right puts sparkles on the ceiling. Cheezy but better than nothing and easy to transport and setup. And I'm an engineer.
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