Forcing a groove into a post-hardcore/metalcore

[Andre3000]

Well, I play this stuff first time in my life, it's kind a difficult to make any groove in such a jumping lines like:

0 0 13 0 0 15 0 0 13 0 0 17 0 15 0 17

0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 000 0 00 0 000 0 0 0 [...] 0 0 000 0 0 00 [5 years later] o oo o oo o 1/2

Are there any "original" ideas used by bassists in such situations that aren't really the rhythm guitar root notes?

 

[7thMuse]

unfortunately in metalcore/post hardcore the bass is relegated to near invisible existence. You can try to do scales or arpeggios between the notes as timing permits but unfortunately you and the rhythm guitarist are married now...'gratz

 

[Andre3000]

Umm yeah, how about removing unnecessary notes in favour of pauses, going octave/fifth lower than original "guitar-like" bassline?

 

[7thMuse]

Depends on the style of post hardcore I guess. Metalcore not do much...is this like a Touché Amoure type of thing or just straight Metalcore?

 

[tangentmusic]

The genre can be a bit limiting due to the fast n' tight nature of the style. Most bassists mirror the guitar chords.
Not a lot of "open-ness" for much bass activity unless you have a slower heavy tune with some space in it.

 

[MalcolmAmos]

Never played that type of music, however, my two cents. I'd go with roots to the chord changes and try and echo the drummer's kick drum pattern. Failing to hear the kick drum I'd echo which ever part of his drum kit I could hear and then fall into a groove with that. I could be wrong, but, I think you will be a part of the percussion section, more so than part of the harmony section, i.e. the specific notes will not be that important. I would stick with roots of the chord change and failing that, pedal the tonic root note to the established beat.

I don't think anyone is going to hear you no matter what you do. Jump around and act like you are having - what ever hardcore guys and gals get out of this music. It's SHOW BUSINESS.

Sorry not my cup of tea.

 

[7thMuse]

...try and echo the drummer's kick drum pattern.

Honestly the Kick is determined by the guitars in this style. He patterns with a double kick what the guitars are doing unless he is playing straight 8's or 16's

 

[theronbass]

You can keep things simple and still be creative with the accenting. sure I hammer root notes we are a 3 piece and I feel I also function as the rythm guitar as my lead guitarlist lays down the hooks. but I vary my picking patterns as needed, most often based off the kick

but we are more pre-post-hardcore so YMMV

 

[Inertialsky]

my advice is to fall asleep listening to Meshuggah