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Fret Clack when recording?

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dukaruk said:
BUT, i'm bringing my bass to the next mix session.
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Always a good idea, because you just never know.

There are a lot of tools/tricks the producer/engineer can use to clean up your solo section: EQ, low pass filter, compression. You might be surprised how it sounds with a bit of signal processing.

If you have more than one bass you use for recording, you might consider trying flatwounds on one for future projects. D'Addario Chromes can offer a nice aggressive sound if you dig into 'em but are much less prone to fret clack than rounds. Even if flats aren't really your thing, they can provide a nice alternate flavor in the studio. Just a thought.
 
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First of all, I'm not eq'ing anything out of my sound, not the highs. There's no notch in the mids either. That's just the way bass sounds if you're not using what I consider to be inferior gear, and I'm entitled to consider it inferior gear.

Also I wasn't hitting my pickup at all in those clips. Apparently my mention of myself having done that on other basses has created a placebo effect in your ears. You're hearing what you want to hear, but I never hit the pickup in those clips.

Also what's funny about perfect control? It's perfectly possible to clack like a bastard on my setup, but I don't. Do you mean to argue that it doesn't take control to do that? And you would know because your own playing is uncontrollably clacky? THAT is funny.
 
#23
Craig_S said:
Yet you miraculously evade the nasty thwack and thud the string makes when it hits the pickup. You're AMAZING! EQ some of the highs back into your bass, and lose the notch you seem to have in the mids. You might actually get a good pick tone, then.

PERFECT control. lol! I'm sorry, but THAT's funny stuff, there!

But Will is one of those inferior players because of that, you know. ;)
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I challenge you to produce soundclips of your playing so we can all marvel at the pure musicality of your nasty clacking and you're unequaled control that, because it's so controlled, results in uncontrolled clacking. That would be a treat.
 
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Mark Olson said:
I challenge you to produce soundclips of your playing so we can all marvel at the pure musicality of your nasty clacking and you're unequaled control that, because it's so controlled, results in uncontrolled clacking. That would be a treat.
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I never said my tone has nasty clacking. I said there are techniques that cause the string to click off the end of the fretboard. You can come see me play every week. Check my schedule. ;) Come on out. I'll buy you a drink.
 
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I'm in the camp that says UNINTENTIONAL clacking is inferior set up and/or playing. It's perfectly attainable to have an aggressive tone and attack without necessarily playing aggressively. Especially with the sound processing gear available these days. Stop thinking 'rock star' and think more 'musician'.

YMMV, IMO, etc....
 
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Craig_S said:
I never said my tone has nasty clacking. I said there are techniques that cause the string to click off the end of the fretboard. You can come see me play every week. Check my schedule. ;) Come on out. I'll buy you a drink.
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There are techniques, and there are techniques to avoid it. It's all about control. I find I can play as aggressively as I want and have no clacking, and those tones I linked sit in and cut through a band mix extremely well, without any noises that don't add to the song.

I know very well how your gear sounds and can sound, but you know very well I'm not coming to your gig, and forgive me if I say someone who doesn't post clips of themself playing doesn't have a leg to stand on as far as criticizing other people's tones. No clack with a crappy active bass, crappy sansamp (!), crappy markbass amp, and crappy horned cab? That suggests you also don't have a leg to stand on complaining about my EQ (which was set flat), and an improper technique to be telling us all about how aggressive playing inevitably results in clack.
 
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Mark Olson said:
There are techniques, and there are techniques to avoid it. It's all about control. I find I can play as aggressively as I want and have no clacking, and those tones I linked sit in and cut through a band mix extremely well, without any noises that don't add to the song.

I know very well how your gear sounds and can sound, but you know very well I'm not coming to your gig, and forgive me if I say someone who doesn't post clips of themself playing doesn't have a leg to stand on as far as criticizing other people's tones. No clack with a crappy active bass, crappy sansamp (!), crappy markbass amp, and crappy horned cab? That suggests you also don't have a leg to stand on complaining about my EQ (which was set flat), and an improper technique to be telling us all about how aggressive playing inevitably results in clack.
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LOL! What's your address? I'll send you some money to buy a clue. ;) I love how all my gear is crappy now. All that coming from someone using a SG bass, with a Kahler tremolo, through a flipping Marshall! You make laugh! How old are you? 12? 15?

Dude, your tone isn't all that. You seriously need some help.

I'm looking for some clips.

EDIT: Okay, even though I know you'll find a reason to trash this, here is a bed track for a project I was playing with. It's all I could find. It's a Hamer Cruise5 (that I traded for that crappy [yeahokay] MarkBass cabinet), with a pick, flat and direct into a Tascam interface and done with Cubase. Link Removed Bash away
 
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I'm 25. This is how my tone actually sounds:

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I'm the lead instrument in my own band. Those are bass only demos. I have a lot more fun playing this than the hi fi sterile tone you get with active basses, markbass amps, horned cabs, and not to mention the absolutely horrible way off the mark tube emulation you get from a sansamp. You wouldn't need a sansamp if you could afford a real rig. Maybe I should send YOU some money.

Seriously, you could at least upgrade to an RBI so you could dial in SOME mids so you don't get totally lost in the mix. But if you're using a sansamp it's probably best for your audience that you do get lost in the mix.
 
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Mark Olson said:
I'm 25. This is how my tone actually sounds:

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I'm the lead instrument in my own band. Those are bass only demos. I have a lot more fun playing this than the hi fi sterile tone you get with active basses, markbass amps, horned cabs, and not to mention the absolutely horrible way off the mark tube emulation you get from a sansamp. You wouldn't need a sansamp if you could afford a real rig. Maybe I should send YOU some money.

Seriously, you could at least upgrade to an RBI so you could dial in SOME mids so you don't get totally lost in the mix. But if you're using a sansamp it's probably best for your audience that you do get lost in the mix.
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I use the sansamp as an effect, your comment is all that's off the mark. I also play a Precision and Jazz. Both are passive, bright boy.
 
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We're going into the studio soon. It's a new band. We're just getting rolling. How about your band? I haven't heard anything from you, and I'm sure I won't because you know you won't be able to talk so big if we hear you.

Let me ask you this: What kind of gear is your guitarist playing? Because as is the case with so many players with gear like yours, they're playing with guitar players who invest a lot of money into getting a nice old school tone. Most guitar players do. Then you come along with your hi fi modern tone and totally piss all over what your guitarist is trying to achieve. That to me makes the music just plain not work. But I'm sure you've never thought about it that way.

But just step back for a second and think about it, what the real issue is here. Who really knows more about what is and what is not possible with aggressive playing, the guy who plays aggressive all the time, or the guy who doesn't? It's not rocket science. Whatever opinions you've formed from listening to other players doesn't stack up to factual experience other players have accrued.
 
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