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Full Stack Bassist Group (Scott's Bass Lessons).

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Also, the FSB program is a collection of other similar material that Scott has already produced. I have several Accelerators and have been a Life member since 2015 and have seen many of his SBL courses. The features that got me are: 1) his tailoring of the material into the five modules which excludes many topics, 2) the weekly lessons on Monday, 3) the challenge assignments (Homework), 4) the 52 weekly live practice sessions on Tuesday in two time zones, and 5) the drip method of providing the lessons a little at a time.
 
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I'm hoping, as always, that this time, I hope, I will gain a higher level of proficiency in one year than ever before. And without any straining or injury that might cause me to have to stop. After the one year, I can then go back to my first love (jazz walking bass) with renewed passion and greater proficiency.
 
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The way I’m reading the info is that you should really have solid (at least) beginner to low intermediate level of ability on the bass to take advantage of the course.

Am I wrong?

I’ve been a guitar player forever but my skill set on the bass is quite limited.
 
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Square said:
The way I’m reading the info is that you should really have solid (at least) beginner to low intermediate level of ability on the bass to take advantage of the course.

Am I wrong?

I’ve been a guitar player forever but my skill set on the bass is quite limited.
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I’m coming from GuitarLand too, and I signed up last night.

I assume our fretboard dexterity is likely far more than what we need for this course.

I also assume, in my case at least, my plucking hand is good enough to start the course, but will require some work.

Scales? Meh, coming from GuitarLand, you and I are probably both overqualified.

Rhythm? LOL, I suck! Well, after watching a few SBL lessons regarding time and rhythm, I know I have a LOT of work to do. I mean, seriously… there’s no way I could do the rhythm exercise halfway through this video:



But I assume there will be similar content in Full Stack, and I assume I’ll spend a lot of time in that section. I’ll trainable.

I envision, perhaps a little too optimistically, that I’ll be able to come out of this as a Sean Hurley-esque player. We’ll see.
 
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Yeah I just looked at the FAQ and it says familiarity with scales and arpeggios is really the prerequisites.

I’m good there I’m also a drummer for the last 4-5 years so I’m thinking I at least have the basics or rhythm.

I working through some stuff at TalkingBass right now.

I’ll give it some thought a decide before Monday.
 
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I signed up for the course and really looking forward to it. I have been a member of SBL in the past and found the resources to be quite vast and the lessons to be very valuable. The only reason I didn't stick with my membership is that the amount of lessons was overwhelming. I do better with structure. I'm hoping the FSB course will provide that. I much prefer being given a set curriculum and being told to follow the path in order, rather than doing it a la carte. I also think the price is reasonable considering $497 would get me 4 private lessons and this will provide me with a year's worth of lessons.
 
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Charlinho14 said:
I signed up for the course and really looking forward to it. I have been a member of SBL in the past and found the resources to be quite vast and the lessons to be very valuable. I do better with structure. I'm hoping the FSB course will provide that. I much prefer being given a set curriculum and being told to fall the path in order rather than doing it a la carte. I also think the price is reasonable considering $497 would get me 4 private lessons and this will provide me with a year's worth of lessons.
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Ditto for me, too. This is the same way I feel about it, only it would be 5 peivate lessons instead of 52.
 
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Square said:
Yeah I just looked at the FAQ and it says familiarity with scales and arpeggios is really the prerequisites.

I’m good there I’m also a drummer for the last 4-5 years so I’m thinking I at least have the basics or rhythm.

I working through some stuff at TalkingBass right now.

I’ll give it some thought a decide before Monday.
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The scales / arpeggios requirement is what is giving me pause. I’ve been playing for 5 years but I’m mostly a memorize tabs and repeat type of guy. I know my basic scales but don't know all the different fingering/patterns. And I don’t know much about arpeggios other than what they are. I’m basically an intermediate bassist in skill but lack a lot of musical knowledge to be higher performing.

I really want to take the class as it is far more structured than what I’ve gotten from in person lessons around here, which has mostly consisted of learn this scale or song. I feel like the lack of a comprehensive learning plan has been to my detriment as a player trying to improve.

The idea that after a year I could really up my game as a bassist is really appealing. I’m just not sure I have the base knowledge level to be successful with the course.
 
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c5hokie said:
The scales / arpeggios requirement is what is giving me pause. I’ve been playing for 5 years but I’m mostly a memorize tabs and repeat type of guy. I know my basic scales but don't know all the different fingering/patterns. And I don’t know much about arpeggios other than what they are. I’m basically an intermediate bassist in skill but lack a lot of musical knowledge to be higher performing.

I really want to take the class as it is far more structured than what I’ve gotten from in person lessons around here, which has mostly consisted of learn this scale or song. I feel like the lack of a comprehensive learning plan has been to my detriment as a player trying to improve.

The idea that after a year I could really up my game as a bassist is really appealing. I’m just not sure I have the base knowledge level to be successful with the course.
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If you are playing at an intermediate level, I’ll bet you are playing all the scales and arpeggios you need to know, but just don’t have a label for them.

If you’ve ever played a blues, you probably played a variation on the standard root-5th-7th-octave pattern. The only other thing you need to know is the 3rd, and then you “know your arpeggios.” And if someone sat down with you and showed you the third, you’d probably go “oh yeah, I know that!”

If you are playing anything other than simple roots, you are playing portions of scales. They are really only teaching pentatonic and major scales; major and minor scales are the same scale, just starting in a different note. The three modes they are teaching (ionian, dorian and mixolydian) are just the major scale starting in different notes.

And of course the scales and arpeggios overlap/use the same notes.

If nothing else, draw a few fretboard charts over the weekend and use them as cheat sheets. You’ve got a year to memorize this stuff, and I’ll bet you already know most of it.

I think the “requirements” are listed so they don’t get raw beginners, because they don’t want to get bogged down with questions about how to tune a bass, how to fret a note, etc.
 
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OlyWhite said:
If you are playing at an intermediate level, I’ll bet you are playing all the scales and arpeggios you need to know, but just don’t have a label for them.

If you’ve ever played a blues, you probably played a variation on the standard root-5th-7th-octave pattern. The only other thing you need to know is the 3rd, and then you “know your arpeggios.” And if someone sat down with you and showed you the third, you’d probably go “oh yeah, I know that!”

If you are playing anything other than simple roots, you are playing portions of scales. They are really only teaching pentatonic and major scales; major and minor scales are the same scale, just starting in a different note. The three modes they are teaching (ionian, dorian and mixolydian) are just the major scale starting in different notes.

And of course the scales and arpeggios overlap/use the same notes.

If nothing else, draw a few fretboard charts over the weekend and use them as cheat sheets. You’ve got a year to memorize this stuff, and I’ll bet you already know most of it.

I think the “requirements” are listed so they don’t get raw beginners, because they don’t want to get bogged down with questions about how to tune a bass, how to fret a note, etc.
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Thanks for the response. Yes, I certainly know more things than I have the label for.

I'm the typical guy who looks at people who are really good players, says I'm not anywhere near as good as that guy so apparently I suck. I always describe myself as an "ok bassist", and my teachers are always like "you are a lot better than just ok". Honestly it is mostly a lack of self confidence in my ability. So I really appreciate what you said, as it helped a lot.

Sorry for the "dear Facebook" stream of consciousness. I think I'm going to sign up for the class.
 
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The way I interpreted those comments about it not being for beginners was that the course wouldn't be for a beginner level player, someone who didn't know where the notes are on the fretboard, didn't have any knowledge of what tones are in a chord, etc.

For those people, completing the beginner journey courses in the academy would probably be the right start. If you finish those you'll know something bout the major scale and triads and such.
 
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c5hokie said:
Thanks for the response. Yes, I certainly know more things than I have the label for.

I'm the typical guy who looks at people who are really good players, says I'm not anywhere near as good as that guy so apparently I suck. I always describe myself as an "ok bassist", and my teachers are always like "you are a lot better than just ok". Honestly it is mostly a lack of self confidence in my ability. So I really appreciate what you said, as it helped a lot.

Sorry for the "dear Facebook" stream of consciousness. I think I'm going to sign up for the class.
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Isn't it a sign that you're becoming a real musician when you think you're rubbish? ;) We always see our flaws in much greater detail than the things we've become good at and internalized, we focus on the things we can't do yet and not the big stack of things we can.

If I tried to run an indy car race I'd finish dead last (if I survived), but it wouldn't be right to say I don't know how to drive, or to forget all the miles I've got under my belt driving cars, and all the skill and experience I had to gain to get this far, things which I now do without thinking about them at all.
 
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I don’t recall the exact numbers but the FAQ said something along the lines of 30 minutes a day 5-6 days a week was the expected time for practice.

I currently spend much more time than that each day/week. I’m thinking if I am introduced to a base concept I’m unfamiliar with, then I have time each day to do some remedial training.

Still on the fence but I’m leaning toward doing it.
 
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From the SBL promo:

To get the absolute maximum from this program we recommend 20-30 minutes per day practice time, at least 5 days per week. If you have less than that, you will still get great results, but things will take a little longer.

I already know I'll have to modify my practice to 4 times per week (T R Sa Su), 20-30 min per day, and use lower BPM compared to whatever is specified in order to lower the inflammation in my plucking fingers and fretting wrist to a minimum.

However, I'm more interested in improving my technique, hitting all the frets equally, alternating two finger plucking, etc. I've improved several techniques in the past, and whatever lessons come up, I will focus more on playing properly even if I need to reduce the BPM and use equivalent BiaB songs.
 
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Square said:
That is my question as well.

It’s done. I signed up this evening.

And what’s with the blueprint thing? I couldn’t get the video to play.
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I played it. It is basically an invitation to apply for their Blueprint program - which basically amounts to weekly one on one session with a SBL instructor. He doesn't mention cost, but I found out elsewhere it is around $10K for the year.

SBL Blueprint - link

Talkbass thread on Blueprint - link
 
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