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FX guys, mic or direct live?

Mic or Direct?

  • Mic

    Votes: 8 19.0%
  • Direct

    Votes: 22 52.4%
  • Both

    Votes: 12 28.6%

  • Total voters
    42
Because there might only be one channel in the board available for you?

Why do I seriously doubt you have played a gig in the last 20 years where you only had one channel available in the board for you? ;)

I get your point. If I had had had to choose - it would probably be the cab mic'ed. But it would be close. We've been working with a steady soundman for the last few months and he does wonders with both.
 
Almost always direct. It's what the sound guys almost always do automatically, and it sounds perfectly fine from what I can gather through listening to recordings of our gigs and feedback from other musicians (yes, even with fuzz).

Granted I play in an original rock/metal band that mostly plays small clubs, so the majority of the tone that the audience hears typically comes from the bass amp itself.
 
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Impulse Responses used for cabinet emulation in some equipment is, essentially, a tone derived from a mic'd cabinet. For FOH purposes, if you accept that the sound if an IR-based direct output is at least as good as the tone of a real mic'd cab, then you can have both in one channel if there are mix/blend controls for direct tone and cabinet emulation. Or, you could bake the amount of direct mix into the IR with an IR blender (if you know how to cook your own IRs and have a box that accepts custom IRs). Not saying that this is widely done, or that there is a lot of reasonably priced gear that allows this to be done, but you can, essentially, have both mic'd tone and direct sound in a single line. I've been doing this for quite some time (goodbye mics). But it ain't cheap.
 
If it was up to me, and especially since I got an all tube head with no DI out, I would mic my cab every time. But, I dont have a mic. Yet. Plus the sound guys almost never want to mic me. I can understand why, bleed and such, but it would be a breath of fresh air if I had a sound guy actually say to me, why dont we mic you up buddy! But they dont. So for now I take a DI out the front end of my amp. Until get my Radial JDX, Ill have to deal. THe JDX will allow me to send a my signal via DI from between my amp and cab and everything before those two things. And to me, that is pretty ideal. And I wont need to worry about getting shot down if I bring my own mic.
If it was up to me, and especially since I got an all tube head with no DI out, I would mic my cab every time. But, I dont have a mic. Yet. Plus the sound guys almost never want to mic me. I can understand why, bleed and such, but it would be a breath of fresh air if I had a sound guy actually say to me, why dont we mic you up buddy! But they dont. So for now I take a DI out the front end of my amp. Until get my Radial JDX, Ill have to deal. THe JDX will allow me to send a my signal via DI from between my amp and cab and everything before those two things. And to me, that is pretty ideal. And I wont need to worry about getting shot down if I bring my own mic.
Tell them they don't want all the distortion from your fx blowing their tweeters and your cab/mic stage filters that out for them.
 
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I run effects as well, and I know what you're saying about them not sounding good through the DI. This is almost always related to distortion effects and high frequencies past 5k sounding bad with distortion. You need some sort of pedal with a 5k rolloff. You can get expensive speaker simulators, but I just use a Tech 21 VT Deluxe for it since it has its own rolloff built in.
Same here, VT DI as the last pedal in the chain. Everything sounds good. No matter what.
 
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I bring a mic and stand, sound guys try to fight me sometimes but 99% of the time there's no feedback, no hum, no gain issues, and no hassle. As soon as i plug in a DI (either my amp or my sansamp) there's hum, there's gain issues, and there's hassle!
 
I think that if you want a mic you should do the right thing and bring your own mic and stand. I recommend a good dynamic mic such as the Heil PR-40 or Sennheiser 421. Also learn where to place the mic for best gain before feedback and sound quality. This will make it easy for the soundman to mic you up. He will appreciate it.