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G&L Tuners on a Stingray?

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by Britbonic, Jan 27, 2014.

  1. Anyone ever try this?

    Trying to lighten the load on my Stingray 5. Unfortunately, Musicman only offers lightweight tuners on some of their newer models like the Bongo, Big Al and they are a different size and design. Pretty certain that both G&L and Musicman use the same Schaller BML tuners. G&L makes a lightweight version that has some aluminum parts.

    Looks like they should easily sway out but wondered if anyone has experience with this.
  2. OK, have done some hands on research so now I can answer my own question.

    The G&L and Musicman Stingray tuners are both made by Schaller. I had one of each so was able to compare. Difference are slight - MM has slightly shorter shaft where the between key and gears. G&L uses an aluminum post instead of brass or whatever metal MM uses. That's what makes them lighter weight than the MM. They also have a dull finish where the MM version is chrome and shiny.

    The Musicman tuner weighs 3.1 oz and the G&L weighs 3.1 oz for a difference of .8 oz. On an SR 5 that's 5 x .8 oz or 4 oz less. So essentially, you shave off 1/4 pound. Not a huge difference but every little bit helps. Initially, I was planning to purchase some G&L tuners but now I'm going to see if I can just buy the aluminum posts and swap those out. If it works, I'll end up with an SR5 under 9lbs!
  3. Volker Deterra

    Volker Deterra

    Jun 4, 2014
    Hi Britbonic!

    Very interesting for me! Where you successfull with the G&L tuners for the SR5?

    Greetings from Germany
  4. Yes very successful. I contacted Schaller directly and they were willing to sell me 5 of the aluminum posts used for G&L tuners for a very reasonable price. If you are handy, it's a pretty straightforward process to change the posts. My SR5 now weigh 8lbs 14.2oz or 4kg 28g. Lighter than most 4 string basses!
  5. Volker Deterra

    Volker Deterra

    Jun 4, 2014

    Wow! Schaller really answered to my request and will deliver the parts in about four weeks! I´ll write about it.
    Another alternative: Hipshot HB1 should be lightweight. But difficult to get in Germany and very expensive. Do you know those tuners?

    Greetings from Germany
  6. That's great news. Glad to here they are responsive. Could probably sell many of them if people knew. Very simple change to make, just be careful to note how the pieces fit together when you take them apart. Yes, I'm familiar with the HB 1. These are not lightweight tuners, just replacement tuners for the stock Schallers. In my research, I have found that there is no lightweight direct replacement for the stock Musicman tuners. You could use Hipshot Lightweight tuners but that would require new holes in back of headstock.