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Gk legacy 212 vs seperste amp_cab combo

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Drop1

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I've getting very close to punching the ticket on a gk legacy for some sort.

But I have questions.

I'm looking at the gk legacy 212 combo or the gk legacy head with the neo 212 cab.

Is there really any difference?

Both amps are 800w.

Both the combo and seperste 212 cab have neo drivers.

Is this a case of they used the same drivers in both cabs and just rearranged the amp to fit the combo better? Likewise, is the legacy 800 the same amp that's in the legacy 212 combo?

If the the amp and drivers are the same, I feel like I should go ahead and grab the 212 combo.

Is there anything having seperstes would give me (beyond the ability to use a different cab if desired)?

I've looked at the specs of both the amps and cabs and I'm bot really seeing anything different, but they don't list the actual drivers other stating both are "neo".
Buying seperates is only about $300 difference compared to buying the combo.

If all in all, the amp and drivers are the same, I feel like I may as well just grab the combo. But I don't know for sure if they are indeed the same.

Do any of you know for sure ?
 
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Lowbrow said:
Get the combo. It’s a monster and it also has an extension speaker out w/ switchable impedance.
EDIT - I skipped your question. Sorry. My impression stands 😉
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I found the designer talking about it and the amps are 8ndeed the same. The pre amp is laid our a bit different on rhe combos, but otherwise they are rhe same amps .I'm juar thinking about resale. Seems like it's easier to sell seperates than combos but the driver also have rhe same alimumn flst wound coils with neo magnets.

The more I listened about the design , these are some pretty Impresove amps and drivers.

Can't wait to try them.
 
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Drop1 said:
I found the designer talking about it and the amps are 8ndeed the same. The pre amp is laid our a bit different on rhe combos, but otherwise they are rhe same amps .I'm juar thinking about resale. Seems like it's easier to sell seperates than combos but the driver also have rhe same alimumn flst wound coils with neo magnets.

The more I listened about the design , these are some pretty Impresove amps and drivers.

Can't wait to try them.
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This Legacy 800 212 combo in the TB classifieds has a very reasonable price. I have a 212 Neo IV cab and don't think you'd be disappointed - especially at this price.
https://www.talkbass.com/classified...att-combo-amp-with-tuki-padded-cover.1655656/
 
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Drop1 said:
I've getting very close to punching the ticket on a gk legacy for some sort.

But I have questions.

I'm looking at the gk legacy 212 combo or the gk legacy head with the neo 212 cab.

Is there really any difference?

Both amps are 800w.

Both the combo and seperste 212 cab have neo drivers.

Is this a case of they used the same drivers in both cabs and just rearranged the amp to fit the combo better? Likewise, is the legacy 800 the same amp that's in the legacy 212 combo?

If the the amp and drivers are the same, I feel like I should go ahead and grab the 212 combo.

Is there anything having seperstes would give me (beyond the ability to use a different cab if desired)?

I've looked at the specs of both the amps and cabs and I'm bot really seeing anything different, but they don't list the actual drivers other stating both are "neo".
Buying seperates is only about $300 difference compared to buying the combo.

If all in all, the amp and drivers are the same, I feel like I may as well just grab the combo. But I don't know for sure if they are indeed the same.

Do any of you know for sure ?
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I own the GK 212 Legacy 800 combo AND the GK NEO-IV extension cab. First, you get the full 800 watts out of just the combo without an extension cab and it will do anything you want it to do. I choose to get the extension cab for a fuller sound depending on the venue (typically larger venues).
 
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I chose the 1x12 combo plus 1x12 neo IV cab. Turned out to be a very beneficial decision.

The combo on its own is formidable and gets used 9 out 10 times with a passive 5 string jazz style FSO. It’s got tons of volume & boom all by itself.

Last night I brought the extension cab because we were in a large ballroom on a 300 person wedding reception so I felt I might need the extra juice. I was correct and it sounded killer.

My other main consideration was overall weight. I find it’s easier for me to move one 30+ lb object at a time. Both fit squarely on a rock n roller R12 cart for a neat one trip load.

Here I’m experimenting with my new fdeck mini 3 HPF. I believe it was set around 50hz but that’s a guess.
 
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I have an Mb115 combo. Clearly not the same. I also bought the Legacy 800 head and the Neo IV 212 cab. Why?

I use the combo for practice and jam sessions. The separates are for anything else.

The combo is nice for quick setup and ease of loading. I bought the separates because I’m paranoid that the amp could die. Then what? At least with a separate head I can replace it and already have the cab(s).

I also like the idea of having different cabs for different applications. I plan to add a matching 1x15 to the mix soon.

Also if I get the desire to try a new head, well I’ve got the cab(s) already.

Edit: just thought of another reason I bought separate head and cab. Again, if the amp dies and I want to send it somewhere for repair I don’t have to ship a 40+ lb package.
 
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Seoarates are lighter, but another trip in and out
Separates are more flexible if you use an ext cab for big gigs and outside. I'd be adding a 15" for a deeper, louder, lower inpedance output. Needs to be matched and that's not always easy.
Separates, as already stated, give the opportunity to mix'n'match, ship for repair or replace.

On the other hand -
My combo, for small gigs and DB, is 12", and will drive a 15" ext cab rather well.
It's very convenient, and a better range than 2x12"s to my ears.
 
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Drop1 said:
I've getting very close to punching the ticket on a gk legacy for some sort.

But I have questions.

I'm looking at the gk legacy 212 combo or the gk legacy head with the neo 212 cab.

Is there really any difference?

Both amps are 800w.

Both the combo and seperste 212 cab have neo drivers.

Is this a case of they used the same drivers in both cabs and just rearranged the amp to fit the combo better? Likewise, is the legacy 800 the same amp that's in the legacy 212 combo?

If the the amp and drivers are the same, I feel like I should go ahead and grab the 212 combo.

Is there anything having seperstes would give me (beyond the ability to use a different cab if desired)?

I've looked at the specs of both the amps and cabs and I'm bot really seeing anything different, but they don't list the actual drivers other stating both are "neo".
Buying seperates is only about $300 difference compared to buying the combo.

If all in all, the amp and drivers are the same, I feel like I may as well just grab the combo. But I don't know for sure if they are indeed the same.

Do any of you know for sure ?
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As I know, they are totally the same. I had a Fusion S combo and it was the sam eas friends Fusion S head. Sold it in order to buy Legacy head. Before Legacy head I always exclusively played combos and finally wanted to try separate head.
I just love it. You are not obliged to always play the same speaker. In many cases, you can only bring just the head.
For me, it's the head. Not going back to the combo anytime soon.
 
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Different strokes for different folks as they say. I have the GK Legacy 2x12 combo with the NEO IV 2x12 extension cab and have never looked back. No problems with any of the GK products and they are built to stay that way. IF anything should happen, I'll cross that bridge, but for now I am more than satisfied with this choice. Plus, I feel the head is more protected in a combo and it's incased from other things getting into it. But in the end it all comes down to what YOU want.

Peace!
Bill
 
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bucephylus said:
Like @Jason Hollar , I too have found the combination of the Legacy 112 and Neo IV 112 to be easy on the schlep, flexible, and sounding great. A really practical backline amp for various local gigging.

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I almost always set my single combo on the floor for the good low end feeling - but I was really impressed with how much low end shoots out of the combo even when raised up a bit. Found this out on a particularly rainy gig last year.

But yes - the 2x (1x12) stack is even better!
 
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Jason Hollar said:
I almost always set my single combo on the floor for the good low end feeling - but I was really impressed with how much low end shoots out of the combo even when raised up a bit. Found this out on a particularly rainy gig last year.

But yes - the 2x (1x12) stack is even better!
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Many of my smaller venue stages are hollow; which makes the stage coupling unpredictable and sometimes downright problematic for the stage mix. IMHE.
 
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bucephylus said:
Like @Jason Hollar , I too have found the combination of the Legacy 112 and Neo IV 112 to be easy on the schlep, flexible, and sounding great. A really practical backline amp for various local gigging.

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I'm late to the party but I have the Fusion 800 212 Neo Combo, and also the Fusion 800 112 Neo Combo. I can tell you that in comparison two Neo 112 cabs have a stronger sounding bottom compared to the single Fusion Neo 212 Combo. The tuning on the Neo 112 also seems a little different than the Neo 212. -- Comparing the two combos, if two Neo 112 are stacked you will see that there is a bit more cabinet space compared to the Neo 212 cab. Even though I have the 212 Combo, I think the Neo 112 Combo paired with another single Neo 112 cab is my best recommendation. I might have done that instead of the Fusion Neo 212 Combo had I known what I know now about how killer the Neo 112's are. If you go on Youtube and watch my attached link you can also hear how different the tone is between the Neo 212 and Neo 112.
 
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