GK or Phil Jones?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by GaryJensen, Jan 2, 2015.

  1. GaryJensen


    Jan 2, 2015
    Hey guys,

    I'm wanting to change my gigging rig a bit and was wondering if I should go GK or Phil Jones? I play alt rock with a pick, nothing too complicated, but want something that will compliment my sound well. I've had GK's in the past and loved them but I don't know much about Phil Jones. The only videos and demos I've been able to find are with slap and jazz and this is not my playing style. To give you reference, right now I'm playing a Peavey Cirrus 4, through a Fender Tube Pre into a power amp into an Ampeg 1832HE. I like the sound but it is a huge cab and with everything all totaled up it weighs around 200 pounds. Your advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
  2. Mr_Martin


    Jul 31, 2014
    GK NEO212-II: light, loud and very good lowend.
  3. Dave W

    Dave W

    Mar 1, 2007
    Westchester, NY
    Kind of apples & oranges IMO. I've always liked GK personally.
  4. GaryJensen


    Jan 2, 2015
    Have you played any Phil Jones amps and cabs?
  5. lomo

    lomo passionate hack Supporting Member

    Apr 15, 2006
    Phil Jones gear sounds great and is very clean. If you want dirt/grind look to GK or you'll need FX with the PJB stuff. In addition, PJB is heavy and expensive in relation to conventional rigs with the same volume output. Many smaller drivers necessitates more metal per cone area and more complexity. For a rock rig I'd run from it, especially if weight and volume matter. YMMV.

    FYI have owned a fair bit of PJB gear including suitcase combo with ext cab, 9B cab, and I currently own a Double 4 mini combo. In the micro combo category, I love the PJB stuff, simply because a) 4" or 5" drivers allow a smaller box size and b)the finish and esthetics are great.
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  6. Dave W

    Dave W

    Mar 1, 2007
    Westchester, NY
    I have. They're not really my thing.
  7. GaryJensen


    Jan 2, 2015
    That's great to know. Thanks for the help.
  8. Dave W

    Dave W

    Mar 1, 2007
    Westchester, NY
    I'm sorry, it was a long time ago so I don't really remember specifics about it.

    The best advice is to try out anything you can. I'd suggest looking at Ampeg as well...
  9. Mystic Michael

    Mystic Michael Hip No Ties

    Apr 1, 2004
    New York, NY
    Any particular reason why the choice is between just these two makes? Nothing wrong with either of them, but it's a little like comparing a Subaru to a Lexus: no knock on the Subaru, because sometimes a Subaru is the better choice for the task at hand.

    As lomo suggested, PJB is a high-end, hi-fi, boutique brand. Super high quality, with a price tag to match. Somehow I just don't see it fitting into the 'alternative rock with a pick" kind of scene.

  10. GaryJensen


    Jan 2, 2015
    I have some Ampeg right now and have tried lots of it and am not the biggest fan. Good sound but a little too chirpy for me. Looking for a nice "natural" sound, if that makes sense.
  11. Razman

    Razman Supporting Member

    Feb 10, 2005
    Orange Park, FL
    Chirpy? Explain. Had an SVT6-Pro and had to hit too many buttons and twist too many knobs to get the sound I liked. BTW, I play metal, with a pick, through four Hartke cabs. I like a bright sound with aggressive mids. My Mesa 400 thru my Ampeg fridge (PR810) gets me there, with a little more emphasis on the low end compared to the Hartke's.

    I also have a 400rb mark iii. I love the preamp - set flat, it sounds better than the Mesa for slap. Deep, bright, punch and power, it gets a tiny bit louder. Can't keep up though when playing sustained notes, goes into the grind - not what I need at that volume, need it clean. A 1001rb would be perfect for me, I thinks. But I'll stick with the Mesa.

    That said, my church is buying my Mesa rig from me, but I'll still be the caretaker of it. I'm looking at a M500 PJB head as an alternative and a smaller cab (like an Acme) to play at home and at smaller shows so I don't have to bring the big guns. I wouldn't call the M500 light, but it does have a smaller form factor. If you're looking for more lows then possibly an Ampeg 410HLF (?) would be a better option for you.

    After re-reading the posts and my rambling it would seem a lighter cab is what you might need, say a neo 212. But what do I know, I'm just some other TB poster, lol....