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GK Plex or TE Elf as a gig backup

Which would you buy for a backup device for gigs?

  • Gallien-Krueger: Plex Preamp

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Trace Elliot Elf mini amp

    Votes: 40 54.1%
  • Something else...

    Votes: 20 27.0%

  • Total voters
    74
I am seeing more posts and info about the TC BAM200.

That's because BAM200 is brand new.

When ELF was realeased, TB was flooded by posts...

I would be careful about choosing BAM200 over ELF. The posts about TC I have seen didn't seem to be that enthusiastic.

On the other hand, there are many people who still praise ELF after having been using it for a year or more. That's something. It won the AMP OF THE YEAR trophy, after all.
 
There's a Jeff Bridges meme for that. So you would gladly suffer vanilla tone on every gig for the guaranteed no loss of bass ever?
Absolutely, and that's how I used to roll when I was playing club gigs. There's plenty of room for the guitarists to be tone divas, my job is to make guts rumble and booties shake. That's all about getting deep in the pocket, not getting my perfect bedroom tone onto the stage.
 
I have an Elf head that is purely for backup and has never been used. I had a small gig last night (50 people) so decided I'd try the Elf out with just one of my Barefaced 1x10 cabs. Eq all at 12 oçlock, gain at 9 oçlock and master at 11 oçlock..... and it delivered! I might use it more often for small gigs, especially as it fits in the pocket of my bass's gig bag. I'm impressed.
 
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I have an Elf head that is purely for backup and has never been used. I had a small gig last night (50 people) so decided I'd try the Elf out with just one of my Barefaced 1x10 cabs. Eq all at 12 oçlock, gain at 9 oçlock and master at 11 oçlock..... and it delivered! I might use it more often for small gigs, especially as it fits in the pocket of my bass's gig bag. I'm impressed.
Sounds great, don’t it! ;)
 
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That's because BAM200 is brand new.

When ELF was realeased, TB was flooded by posts...

I would be careful about choosing BAM200 over ELF. The posts about TC I have seen didn't seem to be that enthusiastic.

On the other hand, there are many people who still praise ELF after having been using it for a year or more. That's something. It won the AMP OF THE YEAR trophy, after all.
Interesting because it is spec exactly the same as the Elf. Also, it was only just recently shipped to customers. The first two reviews on Sweetwater went up last week and they were both five stars.
 
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Does anybody have experience running the Elf into the PA?

Is the DI Pre or Post EQ?
(More importanly) Does adjusting the Gain or Master knobs affect the output level of the DI?

The reason I ask is that at gig's I usually play through by stage cabs, and DI into the mixer (mostly for reinforcement). During the show, I make adjustments to the EQ and the Gain and Master. Changing the tone into the PA is OK, but I don't want the DI levels to change.
 
Interesting because it is spec exactly the same as the Elf. Also, it was only just recently shipped to customers. The first two reviews on Sweetwater went up last week and they were both five stars.

I was referring to the posts in the following thread:

New TC BAM200 micro head.

Especially post Nos. 7, 11 and 12...

Also, having same specifications doesn't mean that both amps will sound and react the same way...
 
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I have a bunch of amp systems, running from older peavey (megabass) to MB series and RB series GK, Ampeg, Acoustic, Fender, etc. all work well in certain places.

When I was playing the clubs I picked up an ELF as a backup to my MB800, RB400, Tech 21 RPM/RBI, or Ampeg systems.

It ended up being my main club amp. I just really liked the tone, and the post pre di sounds great. I’m a big believer the cab you choose makes a huge difference, but the elf sounds great from a small 110 212 410 or 810 cabs. I always have foh support, so the 200 watt elf was enough as a stage monitor.

The DI sounds great live, and very good as a recording interface as well. Plugged into a power amp, it’s thunderous through an 810. More than I’ll ever need on stage. Sounds good as a iem preamp as well.

And it fits in a tablet pouch.

It’s honestly the best piece of kit I’ve bought in a long time.
 
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What a lot of people fail to grasp is a 200w amp is only limited to around 4dB shy of what a 500w amp can do and that's assuming the 500w amp doesn't overpower the cabinet.

Then when they get a 200w in their possession they finally absorb what they must have read here 10x already.

There's a helluva lot of gigs where 500w is overkill so Sir 200w Lightfoot gets the job.
 
What a lot of people fail to grasp is a 200w amp is only limited to around 4dB shy of what a 500w amp can do and that's assuming the 500w amp doesn't overpower the cabinet.

Then when they get a 200w in their possession they finally absorb what they must have read here 10x already.

There's a helluva lot of gigs where 500w is overkill so Sir 200w Lightfoot gets the job.

yup....my 200w Traynor SB200H (also an optional candidate for this thread topic ) is plenty loud though either my 115 or my pair of 112s
 
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Interesting because it is spec exactly the same as the Elf.

It may have the same basic specs on paper, but not features. I’m pretty sure the TC doesn’t have the three-stage (clean - compression - overdrive) gain control of the Elf.
 
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I got a GK MB200 last year as a backup to my MB500. I’ve been using the little one as a main amp much more than I’d expected. It kicks butt on its own.

I considered getting one as a backup to my Warwick Profet 300W as 200W is fairly close but in the end managed to pick up another identical Profet with the same linear volume for £100.
 
So I ordered the Trace Elliott 1X10 speaker cab and it arrived minutes before I left for my gig Friday night. When I took it out of the box and felt the weight, I thought there was no way it could cut it with a pretty loud trio playing blues, jazz, funk, and latin. I brought my EA M-line to be safe but never used it. The TE sounded amazing paired with GK MB500 and FDeck. I`d go for the ELF head but I already have a GK MB200. Great stuff--

do you still use the elf 1x10? do you still like it? it's high on my list, but i mostly read about the 2x8.

Well...yeah. What does the singer do at your gigs, yell real loud? :roflmao:

as a singer, i had a PA go down once. i didn't exactly yell, but i sang as loud as i could. people said they could hear me, so obviously it wasn't a huge show. btw, my throat was toast for days afterward!
 
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