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Good Value PA Powered Speaker Recommendations (2025)

After the band having lost our PA speakers in a recent flood in the basement of our rehearsal space, we are looking to replace them. What would you guys recommend for good valued PA speakers (mainly for vocals and guitar, but may include some mic'd drums and some bass too)? We're looking for 12's or smaller that can compete with relatively loud acoustic drums.

New or used.

Powered (Active).
 
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Active or passive?

What's the budget per cab?

Active.

We don't have a specific budget, but we won't be looking at top of the line stuff. There's no need for onboard EQ, DSP's (whatever that is!) and other bells and whistles. Just something basic that sounds half decent. Maybe $500 - 600 per (Canadian, so like $2 US... ;)).

There is a very big Long & McQuade near us, so Yorkville is readily available.

I have been looking at specs, and why is it that all the PA speaker manufacturers list their power ratings so high (peak?)? Not one I have seen yet is rating in RMS. There's no way a 12" speaker is putting out 1200W!! Ughhh....
 
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We don't have a specific budget, but we won't be looking at top of the line stuff. There's no need for onboard EQ, DSP's (whatever that is!) and other bells and whistles. Just something basic that sounds half decent. Maybe $500 - 600 per (Canadian, so like $2 US... ;))

There is a very big Long & McQuade near us, so Yorkville is readily available.

I have been looking at specs, and why is it that all the PA speaker manufacturers list their power ratings so high (peak?). Not one I have seen yet is rating RMS. There's no way a 12" speaker is putting out 1200W!! Ughhh....
You really should set a budget. Without a budget, IMHO it more likely to simply buy whatever is least expensive. Alto TX312 is about $210USD. Probably not the right choice if you can spend $600 per cab. Also there are cheaper options :poop: .


The power may be a peak rating the amp can deliver with no processing. The amount of power a speaker actually uses may be significantly less. The power rating doesn't really tell you anything about how the cab performs.

SPL and frequency response are more useful. However, the way these metrics are stated is not standardized.

SPL may be stated as Peak or Continuous. If the spec is Peak, then Continuous may be 3dB lower or 6dB lower. It's not always clear which it is, but AFAIK -6dB is more common.

To be meaningful frequency response must be qualified by a tolerance. When it states "usable frequency response," the numbers usually mean the point where output is down by -10dB. You my also see -6db and -3dB.
 
I use Alto TX310's to amplify vocals and sometimes keys when I lead a dance band on small club dates, country clubs etc. They work fine but but I wouldn't use them on a bigger gig. We're not a super loud rock band.

If I wanted to go up a notch I'd look at Yamaha DBR's or QSC CP12's.
 
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I really like my Yamaha DXR15s

Small point: dsp is not a add on for most powered speakers, but it is v important to how they function.

Yorkville speaker are generally good. I have a little yorkie powered sub I used with my touring keyboard rig. It worked quite well.

Can’t you rent stuff from L&M to try out? May be a really good way to audition systems.
 
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I've been happy with my Turbosound IP200 pair. It's been used a lot for practices but I've only carried it out a couple times. It was plenty for ~200 ppl outdoors on a folk gig with no drums and the bass being carried by a dedicated amp.
 
The Yorkville YX series are in your price range and they’ve been the cornerstone of L&M’s rental system for a few years now. Reliability has been excellent and I honestly can’t recall sending any back for repairs. The 10’s are popular monitors and the 12’s are the company’s best sellers by quite a margin. The 15’s don’t get as much love due to their size and weight however. The warranty is 2 years (with free loaners) and being Yorkville that means it covers wear and tear and not just manufacturing defects like other brands.
In such a crowded market as this, for me the deciding factors would be reliability, warranty and the ability to use the warranty without any extra costs or hassles.
 
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Alto TS, TS is important (not TX)
I was mixing a weekly show, the show got extended past the rental period. We returned the expensive QSC, and I bought some TS310 to finish up the series.
Not I, the artists, the venue, or the audience sensed any loss of quality.
 
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I've been happy with my Turbosound IP200 pair. It's been used a lot for practices but I've only carried it out a couple times. It was plenty for ~200 ppl outdoors on a folk gig with no drums and the bass being carried by a dedicated amp.
The guy in my party rock band uses Turbosound IP2000s for everything. That band is all IEM, so the whole mix goes through it. They work great.

The gigs we play (clubs, restaurants, weddings) aren’t large enough that the PA has to carry all the drum volume - it’s mainly support and mix enhancement. But for a ~200 person show they are beyond adequate.
 
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I can report a very good experience with a pair of Alto TS415's:

I inherited the duties of setting up and operating the PA for my band after we lost our ringleader and his PA gear a couple years ago. We got by for a while with using an array of rinky dink equipment (heavy passive mains, power amp, lots of speaker cable...), but I wanted to get a half-decent mixing board along with a capable set of powered mains that would be easier to live with and also (hopefully) deliver all the sound we needed. There was a bundle of strong reviews out there for the powered speakers from QSC, but I didn't want to spend quite that much money to make a solid step up with our sound if it wasn't necessary.

I found a nice deal on a 16-channel Mackie analog board that included six monitor channels (a plus for our situation) and after researching and looking around at different powered mains, I bought a new pair of Alto TS415's. The specs on these seemed to give them the edge over their TS412's in terms of overall performance, freq response, yaddah-yaddah, and I liked that because I didn't want to also go shopping for a powered sub, at least right away.

Bonus points: I found my Alto's on sale and also had some stuff to trade in at GC, so I got a nice deal on them, which included their full replacement coverage for a year or two (don't remember).

I don't have a ton of PA experience with a dozen different brands or anything like that, but I can say that the bang for my buck that I've found with my Alto speakers has been a very pleasant surprise. Pals of ours from a couple of other bands have heard them on a couple different occasions and have offered high praise both for the quality of my mixes as well as the terrific sound that the Altos put into the space.

Earlier on, we also borrowed a pair of Harbinger 4112's for some shows before using the passive mains that preceded these Altos and those Harbingers also worked nicely for us for the shows where we had them. We run all our vocals through our mains along with some kick drum and I've also been adding some of my bass sound to the mix so that I can be a little less noisy with my stage rig. I was nervous about the quality of my DI sound through the PA, but its warmth and clarity is great for the material we do at moderate levels. Translation: my bass sounds nice through these mains.

Everybody in my group also uses powered wedge monitors - no IEM's - but I'm having trouble convincing the guitar guys to put more sound through the PA instead of using loud amps on stage. Other brands and/or models of speakers might have some attractive bells 'n whistles, but these Altos have been issue free for about a year's worth of shows now, they're easy for me to set up and transport, and their sound has been big and yummy without breaking a sweat.
 
I can report a very good experience with a pair of Alto TS415's:

I inherited the duties of setting up and operating the PA for my band after we lost our ringleader and his PA gear a couple years ago. We got by for a while with using an array of rinky dink equipment (heavy passive mains, power amp, lots of speaker cable...), but I wanted to get a half-decent mixing board along with a capable set of powered mains that would be easier to live with and also (hopefully) deliver all the sound we needed. There was a bundle of strong reviews out there for the powered speakers from QSC, but I didn't want to spend quite that much money to make a solid step up with our sound if it wasn't necessary.

I found a nice deal on a 16-channel Mackie analog board that included six monitor channels (a plus for our situation) and after researching and looking around at different powered mains, I bought a new pair of Alto TS415's. The specs on these seemed to give them the edge over their TS412's in terms of overall performance, freq response, yaddah-yaddah, and I liked that because I didn't want to also go shopping for a powered sub, at least right away.

Bonus points: I found my Alto's on sale and also had some stuff to trade in at GC, so I got a nice deal on them, which included their full replacement coverage for a year or two (don't remember).

I don't have a ton of PA experience with a dozen different brands or anything like that, but I can say that the bang for my buck that I've found with my Alto speakers has been a very pleasant surprise. Pals of ours from a couple of other bands have heard them on a couple different occasions and have offered high praise both for the quality of my mixes as well as the terrific sound that the Altos put into the space.

Earlier on, we also borrowed a pair of Harbinger 4112's for some shows before using the passive mains that preceded these Altos and those Harbingers also worked nicely for us for the shows where we had them. We run all our vocals through our mains along with some kick drum and I've also been adding some of my bass sound to the mix so that I can be a little less noisy with my stage rig. I was nervous about the quality of my DI sound through the PA, but its warmth and clarity is great for the material we do at moderate levels. Translation: my bass sounds nice through these mains.

Everybody in my group also uses powered wedge monitors - no IEM's - but I'm having trouble convincing the guitar guys to put more sound through the PA instead of using loud amps on stage. Other brands and/or models of speakers might have some attractive bells 'n whistles, but these Altos have been issue free for about a year's worth of shows now, they're easy for me to set up and transport, and their sound has been big and yummy without breaking a sweat.

I do have an Alto TS210 (a 1x10) that does a decent job. I was using it as a monitor before going to in-ear monitors.