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Gotta love sound guys

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First person I shake hands with is the sound reinforcement engineer and if we don't know one another already I introduce myself. That makes us real ppl. Now I have a name. Not that he's gonna remember it but thats beside the point. Remember his name, you may need it later. We don't play a sound check tune until Vox-n-Drums get what they need and geetar-n-bass are close enough. He can't read your mind and never assume your monitor is keyed up from the opening band. During the instrument check portion when there is a certain instrument that I need in my monitor doing their thing I stand in front of my mic with my hand over my head with my index finger (just the index finger) pointing up and shaking it back and forth until I get what I need or like I said close enough. Now your off and rolling if you do need a lil mo betta thats when you you say "Hey Chris can get a lil mo whateva" Ppl like hearing their name over a loud speaker. It makes him officially part of what happening and most folks don't realize that he, Chris, is making this manageable. It's a psychological move but it helps, it doesn't hurt. In the end sound guys are a lot like us an most are musicians also. Regardless, its a job that doesn't pay super great, its got fuctup hours and rarely gets the appreciation it deserves. I also tip the sound guy for a job well done. They remember that kinda stuff and it comes full circle. And regardless of how crappy your mix was, at least say thanks.
 
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Get a volume pedal. Keep it at the halfway point for the sound check. When needed, put the pedal to the metal.

If you do this, make sure your stage rig is big enough to carry the whole venue, b/c the number of seconds before your bass signal is muted in the PA depends only on the FOH engineer's reflexes.
 
So, I show up set up and run di off of the back of my head.
We sound check all of the monitors and I hear okay let's play one. I think, okay, I didn't get monitor check, but that's cool I'm sure he's got something dialed in. Well...apparently there was nothing dialed in. So after the song I get with him and explain the prob and he says sorry he will figure it out. I say okay and go sit down in the bar before the gig. It's about that time that I notice a terrible buzz coming from the mains...narrow it down...it's my rig. So we run di, shut off the amp and try a number of things...turns out it's just the board.
We start to play our first set and my monitor is still dead, get it fixed (new cable) and now I have guit and some vox but no bass.
Long story short I have to kick my cab back and stand right in front of it for the rest of the show.
This has been my experience with sound guys as of late. Mostly I am forced to play from muscle memory rather than feel and it flat out sucks.
Any ideas on how to not piss off the sound guy but still get it through that I actually need to hear my instrument (especially since they all want me turned down to nothing on stage).
Also, I don't like in ears so that's out.
Thanks!


-Your RIG was buzzing? As in you were hearing the buzz through your speaker? Or the DI was buzzing in the FOH? Did you lift the ground on the DI or vice versa? That's actually the way most DI's are meant to be run (its also a good way to protect your amp from phantom power if it's being applied unbeknownst to you). A while back I had a well meaning sound person switch my DI to 'ground' from lift and my rig instantly started buzzing. I went in back and flipped the switch to lift and it cleaned up instantly.

-Did you check the power on stage? Just a cheap sub 10 dollar outlet tester will tell you if your power is wired correctly.

-If the board was 'buzzing' on your channel, then it is easy enough to switch channels, but I'm more willing to believe that it was caused by your amp and the board being on different circuits that were wired differently from each other.
 
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RE sound company at venues

For the bigger venues, if you can't do an advance via email...then showing up early with a stage plot and input list with monitor mixes will get you pretty far with most techs.
If you are playing a venue with a separate monitor system and tech (not foldback), its well advised to have paperwork
 
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Gents I thought bashing sound men was now against the rules? Is no one monitoring this thread?
It is simply not possible for us to read every single post made on talkbass, we rely greatly on post reports from users.
That being said, this thread is against the forum rules - please see stickied thread at top of forum - and thus is now closed
 
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