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Grateful Dead reunion

#61
Okay I admit to a certain affinity for multi colored VW Microbusses and long rambling jams, but I could hardly be called a Dead Head. More of a Parrothead personally. Having said that, I liked their stuff. It is hard to imagine the Grateful Dead without Jerry Garcia though... Kind of like the Coral Reefers without Jimmy Buffet, or Rush without Geddy Lee... Just not right...
 
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wisconsindead said:
Show me where in the site that it says the grateful deads last shows and I'll gladly eat my words
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#67
Trey has the biggest draw, pretty simple. A not insignificant number of people will be there only because he's playing, to the chagrin of many old deadheads I'm sure.

The thing I don't like about John K is that he has no original licks of his own. Give me someone who will interpret the music in their own way: I like Phil & Friends way more than Furthur for this reason. Give me Kimock, Herring, Scofield, Derek Trucks... I'm not a Warren fan but he's a way better choice than John K to me. The April 1999 Phil & Friends shows with Kimock and Trey is probably my favorite post-Dead run of music - Trey isn't the player he was in 99, but I am interested to see what he does this time around.

Love what Joe Russo's Almost Dead is doing right now. The most enjoyable thing to me to listen to is a fresh take on timeless music. That to me is the spirit of the Grateful Dead, and Jerry more specifically. I understand people who only want to hear someone try to copy Jerry's licks and sounds ("who will play Jerry's licks" is a great line from that spoof video), and I get the argument for why that is what this specific event should be, but... we have the tapes for that, nobody does it like Jer. Give me some inspired improv that breathes life into an amazing catalog of songs.
 
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Who else could they have picked really? Trey is a perfect fit for this. Trey is just as influential as Jerry was when it comes to his style on guitar(any naysayer is just being silly). Sure, the GD really pushed the genre forward, but Phish has done the same and in a time when the genre has become less popular they're still keeping it going.
 
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ThatOneEngineer said:
Who else could they have picked really? Trey is a perfect fit for this. Trey is just as influential as Jerry was when it comes to his style on guitar(any naysayer is just being silly). Sure, the GD really pushed the genre forward, but Phish has done the same and in a time when the genre has become less popular they're still keeping it going.
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I'm a fan of both bands and I've seen a bunch of Phish, so I'm sympathetic, but I can't agree here. Jerry is such a huge part of Americana and the Grateful Dead invented "the genre"... Phish has their own thing going with lots of important stuff, but not in the same universe here
 
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Deadsound said:
I'm a fan of both bands and I've seen a bunch of Phish, so I'm sympathetic, but I can't agree here. Jerry is such a huge part of Americana and the Grateful Dead invented "the genre"... Phish has their own thing going with lots of important stuff, but not in the same universe here
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The way I think of it, switch the two bands completely. Had Phish started in the 60's and Trey passed away people would be saying the same thing about him and Phish. That alone is enough for me to standby what I said. I'm not a super fan of Phish.. I like them much more than a lot of the "jam" bands from their era(disco biscuits, kung fu, etc.), but they do stand out to me a lot as being a big driving force behind keeping the GD style going.
 
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ThatOneEngineer said:
The way I think of it, switch the two bands completely. Had Phish started in the 60's and Trey passed away people would be saying the same thing about him and Phish. That alone is enough for me to standby what I said. I'm not a super fan of Phish.. I like them much more than a lot of the "jam" bands from their era(disco biscuits, kung fu, etc.), but they do stand out to me a lot as being a big driving force behind keeping the GD style going.
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Not sure that logic makes any sense to me. I think the main similarities between the two bands are superficial cultural stereotypes and business model. The Grateful Dead was roots Americana crossed with 1960s psychedelia. Phish was 1980s suburban malls crossed with long form composition and the best drummer on the planet. When they started stretching out in the early/mid 90s it got pretty psychedelic and then pretty white boy funky, but...yeah.
 
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I can't believe it's been that long. I didn't get into the Dead until my college years in the early 90's, and for a long time didn't "get it" (There was a very high population on my campus (or so it seemed) of 18yo wanna-be flower children from the Denver area, who draped their rooms in tapestries, smoked weed, and traded Dead bootlegs), but they've kind of grown on me over the years. I'm not sure about seeing a show without Jerry though....
 
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Deadsound said:
Not sure that logic makes any sense to me. I think the main similarities between the two bands are superficial cultural stereotypes and business model. The Grateful Dead was roots Americana crossed with 1960s psychedelia. Phish was 1980s suburban malls crossed with long form composition and the best drummer on the planet. When they started stretching out in the early/mid 90s it got pretty psychedelic and then pretty white boy funky, but...yeah.
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It sounded better in my head.. It doesn't make much sense. Lol I still think if not anything else, Trey deserves the spot more than most. John Scofield would have been a very good choice also, but that would be based solely on playing ability.
 
#77
Musically, tGD and phish come from different places but arrive at a similar destination which is deeply improvised music with total band communication/listening at its core. Their roots vary greatly albeit, phish was heavily influenced by tGD. The traveling fans carried over quite a bit in 95 when deadheads needed somewhere to turn to stay on the road.
Both bands are incredibly unique stories amongst many that attempted to replicate the perceived "formula".
At the forefront of both bands we see an adored leader who is adventurous, courageous and open minded; although i would argue that bob weir led tGD through its deepest jams.
Both great musical success stories. Im really glad trey didnt go down that dark path that jerry went down.
 
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whiteox said:
I personally like warren haynes. I saw him play the intro to chest fever on slide with levon helm and it was amazing . He also toured with the other members of the dead playing lead and singing but trey is a bigger draw when it comes to crowds .
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I saw them with Warren in (NJ) IZOD Center a few years back. It was musically one, if not the best "Dead shows" I had ever seen. I know I'll get ripped for this but Jerry wasn't there to blow the leads. So nice for a change.
 

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