growl?

[fenderbassabuse]

uhh...it'd help to read the first post, its abot not getting growl, about getting that phat hip hop tone....as little growl as possible

Well. I gave an example of how not to get growl. Anyway I hate a "phat hip hop tone" i just like a dirty growl that sits in a rock setting, if anything a funky growl. No need for sarcasm. I'll take that as if you were pointing it out politely to me.

Anyway the smoothest bass in a mix that I've ever heard was Damon Minchella's '77 j bass with maple board and ash body through a marshall VBA400 and marshall 8x10 cab.

 

[Son of Magni]

To me... a ric 4001/4003 has growl.... but EQ can help.

Growl = high mid focus in tone. The more you scoop low mids the more the growl comes out... but you can't take out too much of the low mids. Fresh roundwounds help give any bass a growly tone.

Smooth = Dial back on those clanky highs. Old strings and roundwounds help with this tone. More of a low mid focus than high mid focus.

Muddy = too many low mids and deep boomy lows.

Good description, I agree. Also I'd say J for Growl and Gibson for Smooth, but I haven't owned a Gibson for years so that's just my memory of it.

 

[heath_the_great]

Well. I gave an example of how not to get growl. Anyway I hate a "phat hip hop tone" i just like a dirty growl that sits in a rock setting, if anything a funky growl. No need for sarcasm. I'll take that as if you were pointing it out politely to me.

i wasnt being sarcastic, you said, yes please, said your ray gives great growl and explained how you got that growl..you didnt explain how not to get growl at all

i love the phat hip hop tones, thats what this is about, not dirty rocky growl, no need for being uptight, ill take that as a misunderstanding now THERES sarcasm

anywho, i was messin around with my SVP-PRO last night and im getting rather close to what im after

with my ksd on passive, both pickups and half old rounds, im gonna try flats soon

i do find it funny that some people find the jazz to be smooth, or growly

 

[ras1983]

your settings are almost there. as a hip-hop and gangster rap fan, i have spent much time working on the eq of the stereotypical sound. first and foremost, the highs and high mids have to be cut drastically, and the lows and low mids have to be boosted drastically. thats just the way rap basslines sound. remember that there isn't a lot goind on musically in the better rap pieces, usually drums, bass, one more instrument and just a lot of sound effects. this means that the bass doesn't have to compete with other instruments as much, and which is why the higher frequencies tend to be dialled out heavily.
also, soloing the neck pup of a bass will increase the 'fatness'.

keep in mind that many of the rap basslines were created on a synth, or were sampled from older funk bands (eg p-funk). check out what gear their bassists were using and see if you can find anything else out.

 

[Fretless5verfan]

I have an SVP-PRO as well, but i'm running through a GS112. I engage the Ultra-lows, cut the treble ALOT, the mids a little, blend toward the Neck p'up and when possible play with my thumb. NO growl.

 

[Marlat]

my signal -> jbl quad + Peavey 410tx -> peavey mark 3 (for power) -> Ampeg SVP-PRO -> Boss HM-2 -> George Dennis Wah Wah -> Ibanez ts-10 -> Behringer Chorus -> KSD v70j 5er

See the problem is that you are running your signal into your quad box then out through your bass. Try reversing the order of your signal and you might get the tone you are after.

 

[cheezewiz]

"Growl", "Phat", "Smooth" etc. It's all ridiculous. I'm sure those terms mean something different to everyone that reads them. I myself, would not want anything to do with "phat", based on spelling alone.

 

[Marlat]

"Growl", "Phat", "Smooth" etc. It's all ridiculous. I'm sure those terms mean something different to everyone that reads them. I myself, would not want anything to do with "phat", based on spelling alone.

Personally I like a phat tone that phull of phunk. Phor what its worth.

 

[cheezewiz]

Personally I like a phat tone that phull of phunk. Phor what its worth.

"PH YEAH!"

 

[heath_the_great]

"Growl", "Phat", "Smooth" etc. It's all ridiculous. I'm sure those terms mean something different to everyone that reads them. I myself, would not want anything to do with "phat", based on spelling alone.

but i do and thats what important....fine, ill put it this way, i want a tone like hub, braylon lacy or preston crump

 

[Mr_Dave]

go through your graphic boosting and find the frequencies in the mids which really enhance the growl and then cut them and bit. experiment.

generally i think its people scooping the mids, but not so much that it sucks all your headroom and you can't hear yourself. pluck closer to or over the neck pu not over the bridge.

i would boost the higher bass like 100-120Hz not so much low mids... but get those hi mids cut out.

 

[honeyboy]

I have an '83 Japanese Squire P-bass with a rosewood neck. I put a S.D. quarterpounder on it and Fender Flatwounds.When I cut 1000hz on my amp and boost the bass a little, I get the smoothest tone of all my basses. If I play with the thumb, it's even better.Best growl is from my Geddy Lee.This can also be made to sound smooth with the neck pickup boosted more than the bridge and bass boosted on the amp with 1000hz lowered. My Sterling with switch near the bridge side and bass boosted just right of detent position is also very smooth and fat.