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Guitarist issues

I started a band not too long ago and im bassist/back up vocals/ manager and one of my best friends is the lead guitarist, hes an AMAZING guitarist but hes being a bit of a douche since he joined, he gave me his sisters old bass amp for my first amp and he helped out our drummer with alot of stuff, i dont want to kick him out cos hes so close and all that, and our vocals are threating to leave if hes still being like this by the end of next month and i dont want her out cos shes very good on vocals. Basically, i have a guitarist whose close to me whose fighting with everybody and i dont want to kick him out but at the same time cant have him pissing off the band, advice?:help:
 
If hes your close friend, you should be able to tell him "Look, I have no problems with you but the rest of the band is getting pissed off cuz"....If it means nothing to him then its time for a band sit down and let them air their complaints. He'll either change or the band will end, I see no other outcome. Good luck.
 
Been there, done that. Long story short, I kicked out my guitarist friend 3 times and he ignored it each time until he decided he was done. That was 6 months of my life I'll never get back.... he became hooked on weed and alcohol shortly after, coming to school drunk and high constantly. Good riddance.

Tell him he's being a douche. In more, maybe nicer words than that. If he's willing to work on it, help him. If not, Das Boot.
 
Been there, done that. Long story short, I kicked out my guitarist friend 3 times and he ignored it each time until he decided he was done. That was 6 months of my life I'll never get back.... he became hooked on weed and alcohol shortly after, coming to school drunk and high constantly. Good riddance.

Tell him he's being a douche. In more, maybe nicer words than that. If he's willing to work on it, help him. If not, Das Boot.

The boat????
 
Tell the rest of the band you'll talk to him.

Ask him straight out, "Why are you acting this way?" He'll give some b.s. Tell him you'll only base your judgments on his actions, not whatever excuses he gives. Don't get mad. Don't let on about anything else. Let him know how you want him to behave. Then let him fire himself by his misbehavior. Any good employer knows this trick.

Immediately start looking for/auditioning a replacement. Be upfront with your requirements.

Always keep a good vocalist who gets along with everyone over a guitarist. Standard! :cool: Let her know that you want her in your band.

Hey, you're the manager. Do your job! :hyper:

Question is: What's good for the band (not for your friend :atoz:)? Easy to answer.

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Study and memorize! :atoz:
 
Even if someone is nice and cool with me, they can be a’holes to others, and I have to recognize that they're a’holes in spite of the fact they’re cool with me.

Having someone like that in the band will be a thorn in your side so long as he’s there, and I don’t believe there’s any way to get people like that to change their stripes.