Hi guys. first time posting here in talkbass. As the title says, I want to hook up two Eden EX112@8ohm 300w each in a Bugera Veyron amp, I'm just wondering how to connect two cabs in this amp head. I will attach photos of the amp head and the speaker. Should I connect one cab speaker to each Speakon output of the amp? I read somewhere that it's better to daisy chain in parallel but as you can see there is only one input on the cabinet. So, is it safe to use the two Speakon output on my amp head at the same time?
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HELP NEEDED: Hooking up two Eden EX112@8ohm 300w each into a Bugera Veyron BV1001T
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I've NEVER read any where that daisy chaining was better than just connecting both cabs directly to the amp itself. The end result is the same. 2 cabs connected parallel. 2 8ohm cabs make 4 ohms. You did not read that anywhere. What you don't have are speakon connections on your cabs. That is a shame.
Yeah, I know. It's a shame. Me personally, I prefer a different cab with a speakon input. But I just can't resist the 200 USD price for both the cabs.
Yes, this is a common source of confusion. There is no electrical difference between connecting the cabinets one after the other in a daisy chain to a single output, or each cabinet separately to the two output plugs. Either way the cabinets are electrically in parallel.
Very occasionally you will come across people advocating connecting cabinets *electrically* in series in order to increase the ohms the amplifier sees. This requires special cables/connecting boxes, and is really best avoided. But its nothing to do with the way the cables run.
Very occasionally you will come across people advocating connecting cabinets *electrically* in series in order to increase the ohms the amplifier sees. This requires special cables/connecting boxes, and is really best avoided. But its nothing to do with the way the cables run.
sorry for being a noob. As this is my first time to own an amp head separated to the cab. So, is running a speaker cable from each output to each cab is safe?
And also, if i connect two 300w 8ohm cabs in the amp in parallel, will the amp see them as a 600w 4ohm speakers? My amp head is Bugera Veyron bv1001t, it is written in the amp that it's 1000w @8ohm and 2000w@4ohm. I know that bugera is known to inflate their numbers. Other people says that the real wattage of that particular amp is around 500-700 watts @4ohm
And also, if i connect two 300w 8ohm cabs in the amp in parallel, will the amp see them as a 600w 4ohm speakers? My amp head is Bugera Veyron bv1001t, it is written in the amp that it's 1000w @8ohm and 2000w@4ohm. I know that bugera is known to inflate their numbers. Other people says that the real wattage of that particular amp is around 500-700 watts @4ohm
sorry for being a noob. As this is my first time to own an amp head separated to the cab. So, is running a speaker cable from each output to each cab is safe?
And also, if i connect two 300w 8ohm cabs in the amp in parallel, will the amp see them as a 600w 4ohm 2x12 speakers (cabs)? My amp head is Bugera Veyron bv1001t, it is written in the amp that it's 1000w @8ohm and 2000w@4ohm. I know that bugera is known to inflate their numbers. Other people says that the real wattage of that particular amp is around 500-700 watts @4ohm
Yes using both outputs is fine. That's what they are there for.
Yes you will then have a 4 ohm load rated at 600 watts.
No that amp is nowhere near 2000 watts, yes Behringer/Bugera inflates their wattage rating, sometimes as much as 4 times so 500 watts sounds about right. Just be careful and listen for the speakers distorting.
You need to get some 1/4" to Speakon cables. Make sure the connections are genuine Neutrik and not knockoffs.
Yes you will then have a 4 ohm load rated at 600 watts.
No that amp is nowhere near 2000 watts, yes Behringer/Bugera inflates their wattage rating, sometimes as much as 4 times so 500 watts sounds about right. Just be careful and listen for the speakers distorting.
You need to get some 1/4" to Speakon cables. Make sure the connections are genuine Neutrik and not knockoffs.
CosmicRay
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I agree about the 1/4" to Speakon cables. BUT, did you first see if the outputs accept a 1/4" plug? Some outputs allow either....
This is true, they could be combi-jacks. Neutrik jacks would be green but Behringer may not use genuine parts
Thanks for the answer. I already tried to plug a 1/4 inch jack speaker cable in to the amp Speakon output, hoping that it's a combi speakon. But unfortunately, it's only a speakon out.
Thanks for the answer. I am about to order two speaker cables (Speakon to 1/4) with neutrik connectors. But first I just want to know if a 12 AWG speaker cables good enough? or should i go thicker?
12 gauge is way overkill but it wont hurt anything. Do you have a link to what you are going to order?
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why would someone make a bass head that did not have a 1/4" speaker jack???
Because 1/4" jacks are are poorly suited for speaker connections. They short out when you plug/unplug them, they barely make a connection, and they can't handle much current. They are called 'phone jacks' for a reason..they were designed for use with telephone systems in the 50's using tiny wires and no current.
Phone plugs were designed around 1880 for use with low current telephone systems. They were already 70 years old by the 1950s.
Another option if you're handy is to replace the jacks on the cabinet with speakon connectors like these:
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That way you don't have to rely on 1/4 to speakon cables.
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That way you don't have to rely on 1/4 to speakon cables.
This is great advice! It is a little bit of extra work on the front end. But if you ever lose or damage one of your special 1/4 to speakon cables, you will have a much more difficult time coming up with one in a pinch. Speakon to speakon are much more available.
