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Help on how to practice a song

75Ric

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I could use some help. My band plays All Right Now by Free. It's a great tune and we love playing it. If you know the song you know there is a distinctive bass part mid-song that goes up and down the extremes of the neck. I can play it, and smoothly, but I have trouble hitting the first of the high notes cold, which the song requires. I am wondering if there is an effective way to practice this tune or any challenging line you have to give cold? Is is just repetition, or is there something more useful?
 
The first part is to figure out the notes. The second part is to figure out the easiest way to play the part (fingering and shifts). Sometimes this does not happen till later. The third part is to play it in till it's easy.

If you can't play something at tempo, you slow it down to whatever tempo allows you to play it. Then you play it over in over until you can play it a little faster. Hopefully over repeated sessions you can get it fast enough. If this does not happen before the gig, you simplify or make up something else that fits. If you suspect you won't be able to master the part in time, work up an alternate version sooner rather than later. There were many times where I performed a passage before I mastered it and had to simplify.

The weird thing is there are also many times when I remember looking at the music a few weeks after the gig and being able to play the part. My theory is we develop mental blocks that can frustrate our ability to perform tasks. After taking a break and allowing our mind to relax, the mental block dissipates.

In order to try and avoid developing mental blocks, I tend to practice several passages in a rotation. I work one passage up until I hit the wall where further progress seems impossible. Before getting too frustrated, I put set the passage aside and work on something else.

When you start working on a passage, expect to start slower than you ended on the last session. Then try to work it up to a faster temp. Hopefully when you hit wall again, you will have mastered playing it slightly faster than the last time. It's sort of like 1 step back 2 steps forward.
 
 
If I'm not mistaken, that part doesn't travel up and down the neck. There's an open string in conjunction with the high notes. I don't have my bass with me, but I'm pretty sure that's how it's played.
 
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If I'm not mistaken, that part doesn't travel up and down the neck. There's an open string in conjunction with the high notes. I don't have my bass with me, but I'm pretty sure that's how it's played.
Sounds right. The lick feels a bit unnatural me. My hands want to make other choices. Perhaps I just need to play it in.

I believe it jumps from open E to G at 17th fret on the D string. It's a pretty big jump to cover in a short period as the open E is preceded by an F# on the 2nd fret. I would play the F# and G with index, and shift during the open E. For accuracy I need to look at the neck to hit the high notes.

@75Ric Consider breaking the phrase into parts. The part that I would extract and practice centers around the big jump from open E to G.

I would count the first three beats and then play the rest of the lick.

|:|1,2,3 F#,E,|G,D,F#D|:|

Do this over and over until you can relax. Then play the whole lick a couple of times. Cycle back and fourth between the partial lick and the whole lick.

If you are playing the song in a different key, I don't consider the original lick doable. You need the open string to make the huge jump up the neck.
 
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The first part is to figure out the notes. The second part is to figure out the easiest way to play the part (fingering and shifts). Sometimes this does not happen till later. The third part is to play it in till it's easy.

If you can't play something at tempo, you slow it down to whatever tempo allows you to play it. Then you play it over in over until you can play it a little faster. Hopefully over repeated sessions you can get it fast enough. If this does not happen before the gig, you simplify or make up something else that fits. If you suspect you won't be able to master the part in time, work up an alternate version sooner rather than later. There were many times where I performed a passage before I mastered it and had to simplify.

The weird thing is there are also many times when I remember looking at the music a few weeks after the gig and being able to play the part. My theory is we develop mental blocks that can frustrate our ability to perform tasks. After taking a break and allowing our mind to relax, the mental block dissipates.

In order to try and avoid developing mental blocks, I tend to practice several passages in a rotation. I work one passage up until I hit the wall where further progress seems impossible. Before getting too frustrated, I put set the passage aside and work on something else.

When you start working on a passage, expect to start slower than you ended on the last session. Then try to work it up to a faster temp. Hopefully when you hit wall again, you will have mastered playing it slightly faster than the last time. It's sort of like 1 step back 2 steps forward.
This is basically what I do. Break it into sections, slow it down, etc. I guess I just need more shed time.

I've had the experience of working on something, setting it aside, and then being able to play it when i picked it up again a couple of weeks later. My sense isn't that mental blocks disappear as much as it is that mental networks get made and are developed. It takes time for this. There is also likely subconscious activity that occurs outside of our awareness. That may be operating in the background.
 
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Thanks for posting this. I'm a psychologist for my day job and this is of natural interest.
 
I could use some help. My band plays All Right Now by Free. It's a great tune and we love playing it. If you know the song you know there is a distinctive bass part mid-song that goes up and down the extremes of the neck. I can play it, and smoothly, but I have trouble hitting the first of the high notes cold, which the song requires. I am wondering if there is an effective way to practice this tune or any challenging line you have to give cold? Is is just repetition, or is there something more useful?
Well, I may be Captain Obvious, but there are quick shots here of how Fraser did it in the first place…


It used to confound me, but then years later I got into the early 80’s thing of playing up high on D or G strings over droning open E, A, sometimes D, ala Joy Division’s “She’s Lost Control”, and applied that to this tune, and it helped.
 
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Here's another:
Just some notation discrepancies in two measures.

From Songterr.
Measures 71 and 72.
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From "Playbasslines"

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