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Help solve a mystery - Charlie Haden, When Autumn Falls

Did anyone happen to listen to "When Autumn Falls," attributed to Charlie Haden and de Instrumentalia?

I fell in love with the 16-minute EP. It was released in late June. It appeared as a recommendation in Apple Music. Here's what the album looked like (attachments).

The melodies were slow and simple, but with perfect time, almost dragging. The instrumentation was likewise simple: bass, drums, saxophone, and something else I can't recall. I thought it was beautiful.

I went to listen to it for the tenth time and saw that it had been pulled from Apple Music. I searched elsewhere for it and found that it had been pulled from Spotify and apparently everywhere else.

The release date was 2025 (obviously not possible if Haden died a decade ago). The label is "Film Score Jazz," which I could not find anywhere on the Internet.

Then I looked up "de Instrumentalia" and their only other album ("Rasta Rendezvous") was released within a week or two of the "Haden" album. Totally different style -- polished, tropical, slick, boring. The thought crossed my mind that this album could have been A.I. generated. The record label is "8740637 Records DK" which comes from "distrokid.com" which appears to be a service to get your music placed on Apple Music and other services.

Did anyone else listen to "When Autumn Falls"? Did you think it was a real release? Did you think Haden could have been involved (or sampled)? Or was this too some sort of A.I. slop (that I actually loved)? I wish I could listen to it again because I really liked it. But its disappearance is a mystery.

(Plus, if this was A.I. generated, then why Charlie Haden? What an unlikely, arbitrary target.)

Thanks for any insight you might have. Glad this forum exists.
 

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The thumbnail is AI generated and the music probably is too. This won't be the first time somebody's tried spamming Apple Music etc. using known artists' names to try to game their playcount. Discussed before on talkbass.

See Discussed before on talkbass. (where they are compulsively going to care about things like this) about "8740637 Records DK": tl;dr it's an indexing system that Distrokid uses for performers without label representation.
 
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