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Help with treble clef deprogramming

By no means you should not attempt to deprogram your treeble clef reading skills. The treeble clef is super important. A vast majority of music is set in treeble clef. If someones hands you some lead sheet, chances are that it will be in treeble clef.

What would be more useful than "deprogramming" your treeble clef reading is to learn the correspondence between the two clefs. This is best done by visualizing the grand staff used for piano: treeble clef on top and bass clef below.
The 1st ledger line below the treeble clef and the 1st ledger line above the bass clef is the same note: C (5th fret on G string).

So you should forget about the advises like "shift one line", because then you are 1 octave off. Rather, think of the bass clef as the continuation of the treeble clef on the low end. In this way, you do not deprogram the treeble clef for learning the bass clef, but rather you learn the bass clef by building up your treeble clef knowledge.

Write yourself scales that start on the bass clef and continue on the treeble clef, and vice versa.

It is just a matter of regular and progressive practice. Be persistent and patient, and you master it faster than you would think.
 
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Over the years I've had the need to learn some interesting, and divers, skill sets.
From writing code in Fortran, MAD and COGO when I was an intern at NASA to having to learn how to speak Bahasa Indonesia for a project in Jakarta - along with weird things like being a navigator in 130mph road rallies or mixed gas diving or packing parachutes.

Early on I was fortunate to learn that individuals learn things differntly - and part of the process was learning what works best for you.

I started on the Bass with no background in music and I was an old guy.
Fortunately my first teacher was a gifted instructor who could intuitively connect with how his students processed information. Unbeknownst to me he was well known for being able to teach guitar to young students with learning disabilites (I tell people that is how he could teach me)

If it works (for you) - it works.
There is still the commitment of time and effort as we learn the component skills that make up the "craft".
Finding that method/system, whatever it is, is often key in the process.

And finding "your way" often starts with the willingness to explore as many options as possible.
YMMV

Apa Kabar?

I taught Indonesian students engineering for 6 months and then lived in Kalimantan and learned my Bahasa Indonesia decently. And my Latin, Japanese, Russian, German and English. And I used to tutor Young and Gifted Students in Mathematics.

TB is full of opinions - whether to learn to read music or music theory is good, for example. My background with american and East German instructors says you learn fundementals and you learn them properly.