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High Pass Filter (HPF) and Low Pass Filter (LPF) Mega Thread

Maybe I missed this in a previous post, if one places an HPF early in his signal chain, could subsequent effects possibly re/introduce low frequencies that would then be sent to the speakers? I wonder the same thing with LPFs too. I just don’t know enough about how various effects work to figure this out on my own. Should we really just be putting it last just in case (Mesa having it on the amp is nice and convenient but not all of us have that option and are relying on pedals).
I have an overdrive pedal that produces lots of lows when engaged. I notice that when I measured the pedal alone with ARTA software. So I decided to change the position of the HPF/LPF t the end of the chain.
 
I checked the Block Circuit Diagram of Genz Benz Shuttle 3.0 (one of my amps) and (without any technical education) it seems to me that the solution is the same as with D-800+ (the HPF is the first step of the preamp allowing it to be by-passed by the "pre" button). If it is the case, I am glad that I have the option of sending the FOH a signal unaffected by the built-in HPF...

http://www.genzbenz.com/img/manuals/gb/SHUTTLE3_manual.pdf

AgedHorse said "Fixed HPF is 24dB/octave (4th order), between 35Hz and 40Hz. Sending the signal pre-DI out is "pre-HPF"; post-DI out is "post HPF." So you can have the HPF either way with the Shuttle 3.0.
 
Can anyone comment on using the Fdeck HPF-Pre Series 3 Mini, which is aimed at pedal boards?

hpftechllc - HPF-Pre Series 3 Mini

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Can anyone comment on using the Fdeck HPF-Pre Series 3 Mini, which is aimed at pedal boards?

hpftechllc - HPF-Pre Series 3 Mini

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I've not used the Series 3 Mini, but I have and have used the Series 3 with electric bass, with and (more often) without other pedals in the chain. Form factor and jack placement aside, differences look to be higher max voltage swing with the mini (if you use a higher voltage supply - takes up to 30 V input) and (unless I'm missing them - @fdeck?) no indicator LED, volume control, or switch to invert the phase. 10 Megohm input impedance on each and same 12 dB fixed + 12 dB adjustable design.

The format does indeed look to be more pedalboard friendly and, since I almost always have the (unity gain) volume control fully open on the HPF3, I'd just as soon have it out of the circuit (at least the way I use it with electric bass - can see it being useful for other instruments and in other circumstances).
 
I've not used the Series 3 Mini, but I have and have used the Series 3 with electric bass, with and (more often) without other pedals in the chain. Form factor and jack placement aside, differences look to be higher max voltage swing with the mini (if you use a higher voltage supply - takes up to 30 V input) and (unless I'm missing them - @fdeck?) no indicator LED, volume control, or switch to invert the phase. 10 Megohm input impedance on each and same 12 dB fixed + 12 dB adjustable design.

The format does indeed look to be more pedalboard friendly and, since I almost always have the (unity gain) volume control fully open on the HPF3, I'd just as soon have it out of the circuit (at least the way I use it with electric bass - can see it being useful for other instruments and in other circumstances).

I ordered one yesterday and will check it out. I have owned the v2 and v3 of Fdeck's other HPFs, and the mini sounds like it's a better always on but adjustable fit for pedal board. I can send it 9v or 18v from my Noble preamp.
 
I have used the "Series 3" for some time, as the description says, the mini, uses the same circuitry, as the full sized unit, I only use the "FDeck-3", on the amps that I have, that don't have a built in HPF ( Super Bassman, Thunderfunk 500B, Traynor YBA-3 ", once you get used to how it works, it really only takes a few minutes, of playing, in the room you're in, to dial out the offending frequencies/tone, that cause the booming, the amp that I use, that has a built in, adjustable, HPF, is a Subway 800+, it kinda is, very similar to the "FDeck-3", but I don't know if the slope of cut is the same, but both work very well in getting rid of power robing boom.
 
Just purchased the Fdeck HPF-Pre Series 3 Mini. Immediately am hearing a difference! It's built like a tank and fits perfectly on my Nano+. It is powered with a custom cable made by Jack Roan for the Noble preamp, which powers several other pedals. The cable boosts one particular power jack's 12v to 18v as Francis said a higher voltage than 9v would help with bass signal spikes.

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Looks like it could fit top jacks
@fdeck

The "top" would not have space due to the power input jack. The "bottom" has an LED in the middle that illuminates when powered on; you can see the light on in the pedalboard photo. There's space there, but if all or most of the jacks are on top of other pedals, this one would be the opposite. Probably why he went for the side jacks. At least they are at different heights along the sides!
 
If some of you are curious about an HPF, I used to use Fdeck Series 2 and 3 HPFs when I gigged acoustic bass guitar and then acquired a double bass. The HPF was incredibly useful for cutting the low end junk generated by piezo pickups. I sold the acoustic instruments and am now exclusively electric, but had also sold my HPFs. Recently I repurchased a Genz Benz Shuttle 3.0 amp due to a memory of its incredible tone. When I plugged in my Barefaced Super Twin 212, immediately I heard a refined difference compared to running the Noble through a power amp. I learned the Shuttle 3.0 has a built in fixed HPF around 35-40Hz. Deducing the HPF was the happy culprit, I ordered Fdeck's HPF-Pre Series 3 Mini to test the sonic theory. When I plugged in the new HPF @ 35Hz, it instantly was obvious that the HPF was the difference in sound. This experience is just in my quiet home studio, so I predict it will have the same benefit for live sound. Such a simple solution!

PS After playing around this evening, the 55Hz setting sounds more full and open than 35Hz. Who would have thought??
 
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I don't currently own one, but I'd like to - Trickfish Signal Filter:
Signal Filter – TRICKFISH AMPLIFICATION
Empress makes a ParaEQ MkII Deluxe that has a HPF & LPF, but they are both 12dB/Octave.
A true parametric equalizer can actually work quite well for dealing with room boom as well, if not better than a HPF.
Looks like quite strong HPF/LPF pedal. 38 to 15k and 24db/oct? I don't know but looks like sometimes can be too much imo.