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"How bad is it?" Silvertone Hornet resurrection

JIO

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This thread is continued from post #242 on page 13 here - Danelectro Coral Deluxe Bass project I have a few related threads going that you may or may not have visited and they have all overlapped a bit. This one is at the point where it needs lts own thread, so here we go again.

My friend Brian has a sardonic sense of humor, and the first thing he usually sez' when I talk with him is "How bad is it?" - which fits this hot mess like a glove. Perhaps I'm a glutton for punishment, but I saw this sad bass on eBay and decided I needed a challenge to get me through the winter months. It's been used, abused and finished (off) with one of the most inept DIY 'treatments' I've seen. It's almost so bad it's good.., but it even falls short there - it's just so bad. It just arrived yesterday and here's some pics to illustrate the "before". By the time this thread runs its course - the "after" pics will illustrate a nice bass and it will have a new lease on life. Can I get an AMEN!

So the person who 'did this' must have enjoyed painting. Every part is painted and it's hard to tell exactly how it was done, but people like that shouldn't be allowed to buy paint. ;) Someone also liked playing cards... maybe a gambler, who knows.

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'custom' string restraint
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Who knows what went on before the paint was applied, but aggressive heavy-grit sandpaper was involved.
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As I said - everything was painted, a lot.., with thick paint...
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Ah, and here's a lovely detail the seller conveniently left out of their description. Luckily I know how to address/repair such, but he's going to hear from me with this pic attached. He has 100% feedback on eBay, as I do. The big difference is, I would never leave such a detail out of a description... but maybe I'm different. I would have still wanted to buy it, but would have offered a lower price ~
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And as I expected - the thick gloppy black paint is coating a very orangy tort (wht/blk/wht/tort) original pg. It should clean up nicely. One of the four knobs are missing - and nowhere to be found (I looked) so I'll be replacing them with something appropriate.
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Under the hood - looks bad, but works non-the less and other than one replaced pu - looks to be all original.
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Neck-located pu looks original, but marked "B" to me sez a bridge pu. Plugged in it 'clunks' louder than the newer pu so they will be reversed.
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Headstock has been sanded within an inch of its life, and the original tuners are missing the post ferrules and some bolts/washers. We'll see if I can locate these small ferrules which are not common. Retro remake of the chrome hs badge - it will look sharp... eventually.
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Fingerboard is in need of major work, but the frets look ok. They were originally very flat profile, and there are no grooves in any of them. A flats player? Note one of the steel rod ports are painted shut. :rollno:
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Looking forward to seeing where this goes. The paint is incredible. What do you think it is? It almost looks like house paint, the way it's glopped on so thick. Is the original body finish underneath? It looks like there's a lot of marks but it's hard to tell if they're left over sanding marks or brush marks from the white paint.
 
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Looks like cheap white house paint and home-made stencils with black spray paint. I wouldn't expect to find enough intact finish below to be worth saving after that sanding job. Belt sander, maybe? This might be best as a solid color paint job, gonna be some Bondo involved. Now I'm hooked, love a train wreck restoration, and you are just the guy to do it.
 
This thread is continued from post #242 on page 13 here - Danelectro Coral Deluxe Bass project I have a few related threads going that you may or may not have visited and they have all overlapped a bit. This one is at the point where it needs lts own thread, so here we go again.

My friend Brian has a sardonic sense of humor, and the first thing he usually sez' when I talk with him is "How bad is it?" - which fits this hot mess like a glove. Perhaps I'm a glutton for punishment, but I saw this sad bass on eBay and decided I needed a challenge to get me through the winter months. It's been used, abused and finished (off) with one of the most inept DIY 'treatments' I've seen. It's almost so bad it's good.., but it even falls short there - it's just so bad. It just arrived yesterday and here's some pics to illustrate the "before". By the time this thread runs its course - the "after" pics will illustrate a nice bass and it will have a new lease on life. Can I get an AMEN!
AMEN!

Pretty rough. However I'm pretty sure there's a diamond in this lump of coal. :thumbsup:
 
Looking forward to seeing where this goes. The paint is incredible. What do you think it is? It almost looks like house paint, the way it's glopped on so thick. Is the original body finish underneath? It looks like there's a lot of marks but it's hard to tell if they're left over sanding marks or brush marks from the white paint.

All of the above - thick cheap white enamel house paint most likely. Maybe he was a house painter who had spare time on his hands because couldn't find work for some odd reason. I had a neighbor in Chicago years ago who was an old house painter and he used to do rust-repair on his Buick using spackle and house paint. Under all that glop is a Danelectro made bass from the late 60's but as far as it's original red/black finish goes - it appears that it has been completely sanded off by a gorilla with heavy grit sandpaper. There will be some re-shaping necessary. Lump of coal indeed!



 
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This is gonna be interesting to follow. Does that crack extend below the fretboard or is it just the thick paint?

The neck was cracked below the fb - so a bit worse than a fb separation. It's repaired now - it was the first thing I wanted to do. I stripped away the paint around the crack, pulled it open and flooded it with wood glue. Once thoroughly glued, I wrapped it tightly with a bike inner-tube and left it overnight.

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Crack repair stable with minimal filling. I'm anticipating painting the neck the same as the body - the neck is made of poplar, not a glamorous wood.
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While at it, I sanded the first two fb positions and filed/polished the first fret and nut. The nut is in good condition so it will be used and the frets also look good. They are of a flat profile, which they were originally. Rosewood from the late '60s looks nice and reddish brown.
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JIO: Guitarchaeologist

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Haha! This made me laugh.

Guitarcheology:
noun
noun: Guitarcheology
  1. the study of guitar history and prehistory through the excavation of parts and the analysis of relics and other physical remains hidden underneath layers of finishes.
Guitarcheologist:
noun
noun: Guitarcheologist
  1. a person who studies Guitarcheology.
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