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How do YOU define "Jazz Bass"?

How do you define "Jazz Bass"?


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Single coil pickups. Thats it.

Really? So what is this, then?

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Mike M. said:
For me, it's the tone regardless of who makes it. You know what a Jazz bass sounds like just as you know what a Precision sounds like. Or what a Music Man sounds like.

+1 this! Whatever it is, it has to sound like a jazz. Pickup position and decent single coils. Example: I've put jazz singles in a Warwick thumb, does NOT sound like a jazz.
 
Really? So what is this, then?

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A fancy, 1.5 at the nut, p-bass. Unless those are single coils pretending to be split coils. I can't see how the neck pup soloed would sound any different then a normal p bass, and the bridge probably adds a little clarity and sharpness to a p-bass tone. That's what it looks like to me, I've never played one. I've seen a two HB model that I believe was called a p-bass in Best Buy yesterday, IIRC. That's not a p-bass either IMO. That's a Ibanez SR by Fender.:hiding::)
 
A fancy, 1.5 at the nut, p-bass. Unless those are single coils pretending to be split coils. I can't see how the neck pup soloed would sound any different then a normal p bass, and the bridge probably adds a little clarity and sharpness to a p-bass tone. That's what it looks like to me, I've never played one. I've seen a two HB model that I believe was called a p-bass in Best Buy yesterday, IIRC. That's not a p-bass either IMO. That's a Ibanez SR by Fender.:hiding::)

I believe it is actually called a P Bass Elite II... Fender made 2 pickup Precision basses in 83-84 (maybe 82-83) I don't know if they are the original idea maker but they are the first to bring it to the masses... so the SR would be the ripoff, and I haven't actually seen a 2 P p/u SR myself though.
 
DiabolusInMusic said:
I believe it is actually called a P Bass Elite II... Fender made 2 pickup Precision basses in 83-84 (maybe 82-83) I don't know if they are the original idea maker but they are the first to bring it to the masses... so the SR would be the ripoff, and I haven't actually seen a 2 P p/u SR myself though.

No it's the new Blacktop J. The Blacktop P has two humbuckers.
 
Two jazz style pickups, though not necessarily single coils, in Fender positions or close enough to cop the tone (KSD jazzes and for example). Shape doesn't define a jazz (Ibanez Grooveline, Carvin B and SB series, Roscoe Js) but if it's shaped like a jazz and doesn't have jazz style pups I go by the tone (like Major Metal's 6er or Brad Johnson's JXB). I guess you could say that the builder intent factors in. Most of the time I'll just call something jazz if it looks like one until proven otherwise. Additionally, A PJ is not a jazz. It's a PJ.

So by my rules, the Sadowsky Moderns, the Fender Roscoe Beck and pretty much every Yamaha ever aren't jazz basses. The Jaguar bass above I'd have to hear and the the dual P equipped bass with the jazz body doesn't qualify either.

Yeah... lots o' conditional stuff. But that's how I roll.