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I need a cabinet!

Beardsley

Beardsley

Sep 5, 2016
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#1
Short and sweet.
I own a fender rumble 800 head.
Fender rumble 115
Hartke transporter 410
Acoustic b115.

I do not like the rumble. The low mids that come out of it are not my cup of tea...the punch is more of a "jab" rather than an actual punch.
I enjoy the acoustic b115 but it's poor quality and only handles 250w.
I've gotten some pretty good sound out of the 410x115 stack with an amp I no longer own, but with the 800hd, it's no bueno.
So I think I'm looking for either a 210x115 stack or 2x115 stack.
Whatever will give me the best low/low mid THUMP to projection ratio as I'll be using this rig along with a drummer and guitar player in everything from small dives to larger stages.
I don't have a whole lot of money and am not opposed to buying used. $600-700 total perhaps.
What brands should I start looking at??
 
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lz4005 said:
Literally isn't. There are people who own and gig with amps for decades without learning how the EQ works.
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I've tried several of the settings from the rumble club tone pool. I mentioned I got some good tones with a different amp. I've spent several hours on top of those gigs racking my brain, twisting and turning to no avail.
So cabinet suggestions would be appreciated, I didn't come here asking for eq advice
 
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Sell all the lower end cabs you have and just an SWR Goliath III. They're not light (about average for an "old school" 4x10, about 90 pounds), but they sound FANTASTIC, and are crazy cheap these days.

The Transporter is not a bad cab actually, but the power handling is a limiting factor. They're more like a 2x10 in that sense. If you wanted to go SUPER budget, you could just get another one of those (but you'd have to take it easy on the volume and bass EQ on the 800). And then you're carying 125 pounds of cab instead of the 90 of the Goliath III (a IV is also good).

With the Goliath cab, you won't feel like you have any need for a 15 "for lows" (or whatever). I would hope you could get 300-500 bucks from the 3 cabs you have now, which at the very least would cover a GIII.

Then with the money you'll have leftover in the budget (is the 700 already factoring in selling your current cabs or no?) you could also look at getting a higher quality head too. Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with the Rumble, but there are so many great options out there for cheap these days, and you seem to have liked your previous head better anyway (what was it?).

Anyway, that's probably what I would do. None of the stuff you have now is particularly inspiring like "oh yeah, that's a great piece of gear" (besides the things I said about the TP410). So if you have a budget in the neighborhood of 700-1500 (assuming selling all your current stuff and adding 700), you could do a lot of damage and make some HUGE upgrades.

Another place to look would be the GK NEO cabs, either 1 or 2 of the 212s, or the 410. Actually the 412 is a fantastic cab too but it is a little bigger (not much heavier than the GIII though, but about 20% taller). For heads, the GK RB stuff is great. The Genz Shuttle and ShuttleMax stuff is great. Old school Trace is great, the early Peavey era Trace is great. For quite possibly the most mind blowing overall rig for not much money would be a ShuttleMax 9.2 and the GIII (I have both). You'll have plenty of power with the 900 watts of the 9.2, 2 independent and blendable channels (one FET and one tube), 3 adjustable voicing switches, and weighs a few pounds. You can likely find both for under $900 total, including shipping if necessary. And that will cover any gig where you're playing for 500 people or less an sound awesome.
 
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Maybe look into the Fender Bassman neos, I had 2 rumbles 15s and though I like them I got an good deal on 2 Bassman neo 15s. They are on closeout at GC now in stores. I just so happened to get lucky and buy a perfectly fine used one and one on closeout and came in right at what one would be new. Much more modern voiced, refined mids, has a bit more bottom end that has some heft to it. The highs are a decent amount smoother as well.
 
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It could be the amp that your not gelling with. I had a fender 500 combo, I couldn't get a decent sound out of it, other than wooly vintage tones. Tried it through another cab with no luck. Lots of people like the fender amps, but they didn't even get close to a good tone for me. Finally got rid of it and couldn't be happier.
 
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Omega Monkey said:
Sell all the lower end cabs you have and just an SWR Goliath III. They're not light (about average for an "old school" 4x10, about 90 pounds), but they sound FANTASTIC, and are crazy cheap these days.

The Transporter is not a bad cab actually, but the power handling is a limiting factor. They're more like a 2x10 in that sense. If you wanted to go SUPER budget, you could just get another one of those (but you'd have to take it easy on the volume and bass EQ on the 800). And then you're carying 125 pounds of cab instead of the 90 of the Goliath III (a IV is also good).

With the Goliath cab, you won't feel like you have any need for a 15 "for lows" (or whatever). I would hope you could get 300-500 bucks from the 3 cabs you have now, which at the very least would cover a GIII.

Then with the money you'll have leftover in the budget (is the 700 already factoring in selling your current cabs or no?) you could also look at getting a higher quality head too. Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with the Rumble, but there are so many great options out there for cheap these days, and you seem to have liked your previous head better anyway (what was it?).

Anyway, that's probably what I would do. None of the stuff you have now is particularly inspiring like "oh yeah, that's a great piece of gear" (besides the things I said about the TP410). So if you have a budget in the neighborhood of 700-1500 (assuming selling all your current stuff and adding 700), you could do a lot of damage and make some HUGE upgrades.

Another place to look would be the GK NEO cabs, either 1 or 2 of the 212s, or the 410. Actually the 412 is a fantastic cab too but it is a little bigger (not much heavier than the GIII though, but about 20% taller). For heads, the GK RB stuff is great. The Genz Shuttle and ShuttleMax stuff is great. Old school Trace is great, the early Peavey era Trace is great. For quite possibly the most mind blowing overall rig for not much money would be a ShuttleMax 9.2 and the GIII (I have both). You'll have plenty of power with the 900 watts of the 9.2, 2 independent and blendable channels (one FET and one tube), 3 adjustable voicing switches, and weighs a few pounds. You can likely find both for under $900 total, including shipping if necessary. And that will cover any gig where you're playing for 500 people or less an sound awesome.
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My price point had already factored in selling my current cabinets. I am quite attached to the rumble head, it's simple.
I have had my eye on some see stuff, namely the Goliath 210 and son of Bertha 115. Just worried they may be too hi-fi or modern sounding
 
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So you own those items listed?

I'm not bashing Hartke here. That 410 should be fine for most things tbh. BUT don't judge all 410s by THAT cab alone.
I would recommend just to get a 2nd Matching 410. Although, if you don't like the sound from one, then you wont like the louder sound of 2 Hartke 410s.

If that Hartke 410 isn't enough (which could be possible), sell it all and get a better 410. (like the Goliath III for instance). ;)
Lots of folks movin away from 410s these days (like me) which makes them a great deal to buy for less money.



As far as "hifi sounding" (I know, u referred to a 210, but still), you can always dial highs and lows out of a cab, but you can't always add them to a cab that cant reproduce them very well.


Omega Monkey said:
Sell all the lower end cabs you have and just an SWR Goliath III. ... .. sound FANTASTIC, and are crazy cheap these days.
With the Goliath cab, you won't feel like you have any need for a 15 "for lows" (or whatever). ..
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AWESOME, Very well said, (and before me even).:thumbsup::D

T$
 
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Beardsley said:
Short and sweet.
I own a fender rumble 800 head.
Fender rumble 115
Hartke transporter 410
Acoustic b115.

I do not like the rumble. The low mids that come out of it are not my cup of tea...the punch is more of a "jab" rather than an actual punch.
I enjoy the acoustic b115 but it's poor quality and only handles 250w.
I've gotten some pretty good sound out of the 410x115 stack with an amp I no longer own, but with the 800hd, it's no bueno.
So I think I'm looking for either a 210x115 stack or 2x115 stack.
Whatever will give me the best low/low mid THUMP to projection ratio as I'll be using this rig along with a drummer and guitar player in everything from small dives to larger stages.
I don't have a whole lot of money and am not opposed to buying used. $600-700 total perhaps.
What brands should I start looking at??
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Mesa Subway 115... done!
 
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