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i need a good auto tuner/pitch corrector

Autotune is like taking painkillers for a broken bone. It´s curing the symptoms, not the cause. Treat your singing with respect and take singing lessons. Relying on Autotune will also make you sound like s**t.

And seriously, fix your grammar, spelling and punctuation.
 
Who says the live music scene is losing any sense of integrity? Oh wait, me! Why are people always looking for the easy way out instead of actually putting the work in to doing something properly? If we're going to listen to a computer doing the work, why don't we just sit at home listening to an autotuned CD?


If you expect people to pay to see you, you should put the work in to doing it properly. The cash you spend on the processor would be better put to use learning how to actually sing instead of bringing the metal scene one step closer to the generic pop scene with no respect for the actual work that goes into the music. Have a bit of self respect! And a bit of respect for the people who actually learn how to sing. It won't be overnight, but it'll be worth it in the end. If its easy, its probably not worth doing!


For the record, I play in a metal band, I'm not the greatest singer in the world, but I put a hell of a lot of work into making sure I was singing in tune. After a bit of time, I've made sure my vocals are always in key. Practice! Simple
 
Auto-tune is the worst ever. I know that you are just going to say that you're not like T-Pain or whoever and just want to you make your vocals sound "perfect," BUT, there has been a terrible trend in music lately where over-pitch-corrected vocals are used in all pop music. Personally, as a musician and a human being, I hate it.

BUT (again) as a metal head, I was able to gain solace assuming that it would be isolated in pop music. The contents of this link are not suitable for metal heads with weak stomaches, but they clearly don't exist.

With apologies


Auto-tune in the worst ever. I fully understand what you want to use it for, but I am just saying that bands who use auto-tune are the worst ever. Maybe yours is different...
 
First off, screaming IS easy. Once you know the technique to rasp your voice without it dying on you, it's just like singing.

Your issue is not the volatility of live music. Your issue is lack of practice. If you can't hit your screams, clean singing, and rasped singing all on a pitch that's musically relevant to the song without "sing then adjust," you need to practice and you need to take lessons with someone experienced in harsh vocals.

And yes, screams have a pitch. It's hard to discern to an untrained listener, but it's there, and you can control it VERY easily if you're screaming properly. The range is usually slightly less than that of your clean singing voice, minus whistle-register witch cackles and the subharmonics you get from pig squeal resonance, but you've got a wide variety of notes to choose from even without using those extended range techniques.

The best medicine for maintaining pitch during transitions between screaming and singing are as follows:
1) Good monitors. Nothing but vox and maybe keys in them, if you can get away with it. Getting some good earplugs works, too, because then you hear a lot less of everything else and a whole lot of you, but you have to practice with them in to adjust to the occlusion effect.

2) Grit glissandos. Pick a note in your comfy range, probably upper chest voice, sing it clean with a raised open palate (ie: big opera voice). Lower the palate until you're in your typical singing voice. Constrict the folds to get the vocal fry going, but maintain that pitch. Further constrict and apply pressure until you're in full-on scream, but keep that pitch going. Take a breath, then transition back down to clean open palate. Repeat backwards (ie: start with scream, transition to clean open palate, back to scream.)

Pair some grit glissandos with diaphragm and open breath excercises and a couple of scale stretches and you've got a phenomenal warm-up for any vocalist that's into harsh stuff. I'd start with diaphragm and breath, then do scales, then the grit glisses, just to notch the intensity up instead of starting with the hard stuff.

Further, someone else in the thread mentioned hearing your pitches before you sing them. If you're not doing this already, take that money you would be spending on a pitch corrector and give it to a vocal instructor, because you need to go back to basics.
 
Yeah, I am with everyone else here. If I knew a metal band used vocal pitch correction for live and studio work, I would not even bother showing up to the shows. I wonder what your band mates think about this. I have honestly heard metal singers have trouble singing live and I can understand the switch between screaming/growling and then going clean is not an easy one.

Seriously, I can't believe your grammar and spelling on this forum. How do ever expect to be taken seriously when you write like that?
 
i am i may be writeing in a way you may not be acustom to but i am

That's a very weird response. You are writing illiterately whether we are accustomed to it or not.

Anyway, there are a bunch of autotuners available for live use. Get on Sweetwater's mailing list, and you can see them all in their catalog or, better yet, just look at Sweetwater.com.
 
http://www.digitech.com/products/Vocalist/Vocal300.php

can do a bunch of stuff. Instead of using autotune, a pitch shifter might be slightly more honest to correct pitch with. Now you're using it as an effect instead of a cover up. I've seen a doomish stoner metal band where the lead singer used a lot of vocal effects, may have been this unit, and it sounded pretty badass. As long as your using it to enhance your abilities, not to make up for a lack in talent.
 
Yeah, I am with everyone else here. If I knew a metal band used vocal pitch correction for live and studio work, I would not even bother showing up to the shows. I wonder what your band mates think about this. I have honestly heard metal singers have trouble singing live and I can understand the switch between screaming/growling and then going clean is not an easy one.

Seriously, I can't believe your grammar and spelling on this forum. How do ever expect to be taken seriously when you write like that?

i may not have the best grammer ever but still that doesnt mean im a bad bass player or my skill is affected by it and i deserve to be repected like everyone else in this forum :bassist:..i probly will end up getting lessons for my voice the auto tuner thign was just an idea and i wanted to look at diffrent brands and samples of itso it was an idea of mine but theres such a strong dislike of them here but oh well...and for your info people i have a D in english lol...its not my first language you no :bawl: