Experienced classic rock bass player - been searching for a band to join.
Posted this on CL and got a hit :
Experienced classic rock bass player looking for a band.I was contacted by a guitarist and sent a list of 15 mostly standard classic rock tunes - Skynyrd, Doors, Zeppelin, Neil Young, Black Crowes, Z Top ... And 1 Poison song - "Nothing But a Good Time". I'm not a big 80s hair band fan but hey, it's only 1 song out of 15.
Any bands out there playing classic rock --
Stones, CCR, Tom Petty, ZZ Top. Maybe some Clapton/Cream or some Allmans or Skynyrd.
Could add some SRV, Black Crowes or a bunch of other stuff.
This has to be fun but the the goal should be to get enough songs down to play in front of people.
I knew most of the songs and only had to work on 3 or 4, and I learned the Poison song, so the initial meeting goes well and they ask me to continue with them. They play pretty well, the songs are stuff I like for the most part so I figure why not. There are 4 of them the drummer has played in other band with all of these guys - but not all at the same time. All good until group texts and next 2 meetings discussing new songs show the new ones to be mostly 80s hair band songs.
Singer suggests several 80s hair band songs - drummer immediate seconds those selections. I mention I'm not a fan and don't know any of those songs. Other guitar player and I mention a lot of classic rock songs that either somehow get vetoed or don't end up on any list. This happens both on session 2 and session 3. Session 3 was last night.
Not only that but we somohow lose one of the original 15 standard classic rock songs from the initial list every session.
This morning the singer group texts a proposed additional 10 song set list, asking our opinion. You guessed it, 7 of the 10 are by 80s hair bands - more Poison, Motley Crue, Whitesnake, Ratt and 1 song from a fake band from the movie Rock Star. Drummer immediately texts back - 'Yes'.
As I mention I'm not a fan but I know I'm not going to like every song we play so I'm OK with 1 or 2 per set but I'm not going to play a set with 70% of that stuff.
I could have been passive aggressive and just not learn the songs but after thinking about I decided to be upfront and tell them exactly that - That I'm not a fan - remind them that I told them that twice already and that I'm OK 1 or 2 per set but besides that I'm not on board with the new set list.
IME when a bass player complains about songs it is the kiss of death so I will be fired.
Not sure exactly how it will play out but I will probably be tagged as selfish and not a team player but it's really just a musical mismatch. I do feel marginalized as they didn't listen to my concerns the 1st 2 times I mentioned it, and a little mislead given the initial 15 songs but I have no hard feelings.
Sorry for the rant.
Same Scenario,180° different genres, I was asked to join/tryout for a classic rock cover band, they had about 10-20 song set list,mostly old 70-60s standards. Zeppelin, Beatles,Stones, Hendrix, deep purple. You know the same old ones,R 'N' R, come together, Foxy lady, Purple haze, etc. the guys seemed cool, older, 1 younger. My issue was I just backed out of the same situation Because of set stagnation IMO! I wanted to play Rock, But Newer, more Modern Stuff,Foo Fighters, STP, Alice in Chains, Nirvana and such. I was tired of going to see Live bands & hear the same old "Standards" It was BORING, A F!! No Offense but I Just thought lets set ourselves apart & play a more updated set! It would be a breath of fresh air! I wasnt asking to scrap the existing set just to sprinkle a couple of newer songs in, I didnt think that was unreasonable! but it got met with harsh resistance! I tried to plead my case , but fell on deaf ears! You think I asked them to change the entire set! so I felt it was time to move on. then the old band played a grand opening gig with 3 other bands, same style of music... that band wasnt anything special,just 4 guys playing the standard classic rock classics x3. I attended as part of my easing the transition to the new bass player. I guess that gig opened the eyes of the BL because the 3 other bands almost had the exact same set lists! IMO It was so BORING! None of them stood out! "Who wants to hear some Hendrix!" feigning excitement! The guitarist came up to me dejected "We gotta change our set", I used my time out/off to sharpen my chops & to learn new songs, I was planning on starting my own band that played newer music & some "Oldies" quite the opposite of what I had been playing. But like all band endeavors, it was hard finding like minded players, I had a singer, Lead guitarist, me(bass),but of course the Drummer was hardest to find, we tried out 3 none could break from their current bands, so it just fizzled out. The idea must have been pretty good because the singer & guitarist went on to join other already established bands, to my dismay. I concurred I must be the problem holding the band back so I backed off,& relagated myself to be just a bass player,Not BL, then Covid hit! and put every thing on hold! The singer's band became the most successful,but they were well established before they changed genres, only changing singers & new setlist. funny, because he was the most resistant to change styles!or the most stubborn, we had frequent arguments about it. like I was insulting his SO! He used to say People wanna hear the "hits" as if he wrote them! Now he sees the light, & we plan on starting something when this virus BS is finally over! He says, He likes to keep things fresh with bands, otherwise it gets boring.: D such a 180° turn. the old guitarist is bursting to play now! funny how things change!
GL, during my time trying to get things started I too had to keep my mind OPEN to new ideas, since I was asking them to be more open minded! I even learned some genres/styles I thought I would hate!( country, POP, & EDM) Ive learned to like Billie Eillish& taylor swift! you too must learn to be fluid, since bands are sooo Temporal! GL! sorry for the looong rant!