Cash deposit or the bar keys for me.
I'm not joking. You want to run my rig, give me your bar keys. I'll sit right here and drink and watch them with my amp. When I get the amp back, you get the keys back.
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- Thread starter commonplayer
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Cash deposit or the bar keys for me.
I'm not joking. You want to run my rig, give me your bar keys. I'll sit right here and drink and watch them with my amp. When I get the amp back, you get the keys back.
Hmmm... that's tough. Just make sure you don't end up on the hook for repair costs, no matter how good a friend the promoter is.
Last time I loaned gear out, it was a 10-piece, double bass Sonor kit (think Fodera quality). Asshat ripped it off and I have never seen it again!
NEVER again!
Dan K.
NEVER again!
Dan K.
The communal sharing of goods in certain societies (including wives for the Inuit's) is usually found to be based on a cultural foundation of mutual benefit and respect for property value.
Alas. These attributes are seldom found among musicians and mechanics. I NEVER lend tools. Too many bitter and expensive lessons learned in my early, gullible days. I doubt I would ever agree to lend instruments/gear regardless of who asked.
Easy for me to say since I don't make my living on stage. (I play for my own amazement.) Much harder when you're beholden to someone for your next gig.
"Is a puzzlement." - Yul Brynner
Alas. These attributes are seldom found among musicians and mechanics. I NEVER lend tools. Too many bitter and expensive lessons learned in my early, gullible days. I doubt I would ever agree to lend instruments/gear regardless of who asked.
Easy for me to say since I don't make my living on stage. (I play for my own amazement.) Much harder when you're beholden to someone for your next gig.
"Is a puzzlement." - Yul Brynner
Good business sense dictates that I don't give away something for nothing...that includes the use of my rig (such as it is). The promoter is responsible, IMO. Jimmy M is right that 3 days may not have been enough time for him to get a rig for Mr. Reggae but that's his problem, not yours. He acknowledged that he's responsible and said he'll take care of it...hold him to it.
i had this happen to me last night...
we were the first of two bands... we finish our set (50 mins) and immediately began to break down to get out of the way of the following band (i was curious why they hadn't set up their gear behind us for ease of transition reasons).
bassist in the 'headlining' band comes up, doesn't even introduce himself, and says, "hey, you sounded really good.. is that your amp?"
-yes
"listen, i thought the venue was supplying an amp. is it ok if i use yours?"
-no
must not have listened to me because after i cased up the head, he asks again one min later, "i can use your amp, right?"
-no
"oh, why, you leaving?"
-no, i just don't loan out my stuff.
talk to the Fred [soundman], have him patch you direct...
sound guy is telling him his speakers can't handle it, despite the fact that they are big boy JBL's... not my problem.
i felt like kind of a dick but who the hell shows up at a gig assuming there's a house rig for them to use? our drummer let their drummer use his kit since it was already set up but that doesn't bind/obligate me to do jack-all.
this was not an open mic/invitational, it was a booked gig.
meanwhile, dude had walked in earlier with his bass -- no case -- from the pouring rain and i'm thinking if he takes this type of care of his bass then who knows what he'll do to my rig..
we were the first of two bands... we finish our set (50 mins) and immediately began to break down to get out of the way of the following band (i was curious why they hadn't set up their gear behind us for ease of transition reasons).
bassist in the 'headlining' band comes up, doesn't even introduce himself, and says, "hey, you sounded really good.. is that your amp?"
-yes
"listen, i thought the venue was supplying an amp. is it ok if i use yours?"
-no
must not have listened to me because after i cased up the head, he asks again one min later, "i can use your amp, right?"
-no
"oh, why, you leaving?"
-no, i just don't loan out my stuff.
talk to the Fred [soundman], have him patch you direct...
sound guy is telling him his speakers can't handle it, despite the fact that they are big boy JBL's... not my problem.
i felt like kind of a dick but who the hell shows up at a gig assuming there's a house rig for them to use? our drummer let their drummer use his kit since it was already set up but that doesn't bind/obligate me to do jack-all.
this was not an open mic/invitational, it was a booked gig.
meanwhile, dude had walked in earlier with his bass -- no case -- from the pouring rain and i'm thinking if he takes this type of care of his bass then who knows what he'll do to my rig..
I hate bullcrap like that. Then they try to make you come across like the bad guy because you won't let someone use your gear. Unless I know the player or have 100% confidence they are professional players and quality people I will not let others use my gear period. Recently I had a studio player and his band show up at a hotel we were working and we invited them all up to play. It was one of the most enjoyable experiences I have had and it was great to hear the guy coming through my bass and amp.
The whole thought of your story though irritates the heck out of me.
And I don't get the "out of respect for the band" thing. Did the guy say anything to you? Did he act concerned, offer to pay for repair? Did he or the band show you any respect by taking an interest?
The whole thought of your story though irritates the heck out of me.
And I don't get the "out of respect for the band" thing. Did the guy say anything to you? Did he act concerned, offer to pay for repair? Did he or the band show you any respect by taking an interest?
i love it when "the guy" turns the bass up to 10.............................why,
explain this to the responsible people
and +1 to Sean S
explain this to the responsible people
and +1 to Sean S
Thank You.
What's the big deal? The promoter/booker/venue owner can't cough up the money for a 500 watt bass head? What kind of money are we talking about 1-2 thousand maybe?
Of course this is not the answer to your "What could it be?" question. You will have to excuse my hostile sarcasm. It's just that I believe nice guys should finish first, not last.
Didn't the "a rather famous reggae band" at least have some kind of amp tech check the fuse for you?
I hate to break this to you, but just because they're promoting a concert doesn't make them rich. Some are, some have sunk every cent they have into a show and risk losing a lot of money. And even if they are rich, they're certainly not going to buy a bass rig for one show. But they will contact a backline company and rent one, or at least they will if they're smart.
Next time tell that prick to run through the PA or get bent. I'm getting a sticker for my amp that says "No Tools Loaned". If anyone's breaking my **** it's gonna be me!
Good thinking. Amp / cab lending is really only done between GOOD friends who respect each others gear, even then..... only when really necessary. Buy a dang amp FGS!!!!
My nephew's friend promotes local concerts in my area. He arranged for a few mainland bands to come to Hawaii and perform with some of the local bands. I let them use my bass rig with the understanding that if an amp or cab gets fried, they replace it with a new one of the same type. My nephew baby sat the rig all night and told each bass player that he would shut the amp rig down if they messed with the amp during their set. I got everything back in good shape and their concert was a success.
I hope your amp get fixed soon. Hope its a simple and cheap fix as well.
I hope your amp get fixed soon. Hope its a simple and cheap fix as well.
I hate to break it to you but when an amp suddenly stops working it's only the fuse if you are very very lucky. Fuses blow because something is taking too much current. They are sized to pass the maximum current the amp should need. If it is only the fuse that's the exception rather than the rule!
BTW loaning your rig to someone is rather like loaning your woman. Who gives a damn about a motersicle???
Paul
I hate to break it to you but when an amp suddenly stops working it's only the fuse if you are very very lucky. Fuses blow because something is taking too much current. They are sized to pass the maximum current the amp should need. If it is only the fuse that's the exception rather than the rule!
BTW loaning your rig to someone is rather like loaning your woman. Who gives a damn about a motersicle???
Paul
Obviously, you're not aware that a motorcycle will get you women, but women will rarely get you a motorcycle - hahaha!!!
- georgestrings
