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Ibanez Promethean 1x10 combo vs. Markbass Mini CMD 121P

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Great thanks!

You can hear it doesn't have the girth of the WA but hey..... what can you expect from a foot cube box? I can tell I'd be tempted to goose up the bass a bit.

I think I'm tending towards the Ibanez - I use the headphone output quite a lot on my soon_to_be_replaced micromark and the CMD 121P aint got none.
 
Any news on that issue?
"Ibanez Promethean 1x10 combo vs. Markbass Mini CMD 121P"

Especially the experience with the reliability of the Promethean interests me. Now and then one can read about various issues, not so much with the mark 121.

Any experiences you long-mid-time users ??
 
I've only spent a short time with the Prometheus 110 combo and have played a MarkBass 210 head and cab (I don't remember the models) a fair amount, and I can say that I find it easier to dial in a good sound with the Prometheus, but the 210 cab had more volume. If I had to do it over and choose between an MB 110 combo and the same Prometheus I'd take the Prometheus without a second thought. I must admit a bias against MB gear based on looks as well, so I can't say my opinion is 100% based on tone (but I'd like to think it is).
 
my personal impression of a 3 week trial (and maybe I buy - not quite sure):

what I liked:
really good sound, esp. for the size
size / lightness
aux in
headphone out
speaker out
the look
EQ and Vibe individually off-switchable -> not in the soundpath


DISLIKES:

* there are quite some posts mentioning faulty behaviour - is the production quality reliable ??
* in my unit the mute button did "hang" somtimes (I mentioned that here somewhere) - sent this back
* a little bit of basic noise - I play with passive basses
* the fan at least in my unit was obviously audible - This annoyed me the most. Other TB'ers say that it would be slightly audible, but in the very much ok-range. This wonders me: either you are deaf or the fans are not the same? Or the fans work differently in 220V/50Hz countries and 110V/60Hz countries? But I doubt that, the fan will work with the internal amp-power (DC) I guess.

Maybe I give it another try. Maybe I take the Mark Mini 121, although it has no aux-in/phone-out. If it had these I would take the Mark I guess, despite it's :scowl:-look
 
I went for the MB CMD 121P last year. I was also looking for something loud and portable and had checked numerous vids on the internet to compare.

At the store I did the A/B test with my 4string and a couple of fivers. In the testing room, there also were TC combos, Ampegs, GK's and what have you. In the loud & portable league, there isn't too much choice of amps that are also compact. Some say MB has bought its fame because of the portability. I beg to differ.

So the bass was hooked up to the Ibanez first (10" version). I almost immediately had a great sound. Crisp, clear, deep bass. Had to check if it really was my bass I was playing. It was. So once I had my sound, I started turning the combo head knobs and played with the equalizer (vintage style slider section). Uhm, the sound turned away from what I wanted.

Plugged my bass into the MB combo. What the ****? Dead, boomy sound compared to the Promethean. All knobs on twelve then. Still that horrible boomy sound. Think. Act. I noticed the amp was put straight against the wall. So I put in on the floor to let the rear port breathe. Yes. There was the sound I was looking for. Warm, punchy bass, clear highs, not too bright. Love sound. I play fingerstyle a lot and always look for that dry, jazzy, burpy sound. Couldn't get it out of the Ibanez.
Could the pre-amp be the cause? Digital vs analogue maybe?

Anyway, I tested both amps with three different basses and although I think for the price, the Ibanez is great stuff, in the end I'm sure you will part with the Markbass CMD 121P only if God says you have to. Unless you're an Egyption king, you can't take it with you when you hit the road to nowhere.

I also bought the NY121 months later. That really makes the difference as it's not only louder but it gives that tight, articulate sound when playing on normal volume in the living room. As a standalone, the CMD121 is already superb as it is. 12" does the trick for me.

Can't say anything about quality yet, but the things feels like a brick, looks great and I like that black carpet around it. The Ibanez looked ok but had kind of a plastic feel and touch. Just too hifi for me in sound as well. Don't care for headphones out, and really no need to use the combo head with other cabs.

I used to have an Ibanez SR1500, well fabricated but I never found that sweet spot (no sound of wood), I think I had the same feeling with the Promethean. Good, not great.

The fact that I'm a great fan of Hadrien Feraud and Evan Marien had no influence. I'm a bass player enthousiast, even the most expensive MarkBass won't elevate me to the level of those guys. But I no longer have to concentrate on the amp settings, all attention goes to improving my playing skills. That's what I see as most important.

Cheers,
Lopi
 
Markbass CMD121P and NY121 extension cab for me all the way.....

Or my LMII head with my Schroeder and sometime in near future either a Thunderchild or a Barefaced Compact.......

EDIT: Sold the CMD121P and NY121 in 2011 after receiving my ThunderTots from AudioKinesis.....I use my Tots 112 with a MB LMII or a GK MBFusion500....had I not gotten the 112 ThunderTots I would have happily continued using the Markbass CMD121P and the NY121 cab..........